Second Wheat Herbicide

[SilliamWhale]

I am wondering aloud. In order to protect the efficacy of Broadway Star and use it less often than twice in three years or every other year what would be the next best spring herbicide to use?

There will be wild oats and brome mainly as well as broadleaves.

Would you use Broadway Star again or would Pacifica Plus be a useful alternative mode of action or will it be dissapointing?

 

[Woody j]

Broadway star gives best results for wild oats and brome in my experience

 

[ollie989898]

I am wondering aloud. In order to protect the efficacy of Broadway Star and use it less often than twice in three years or every other year what would be the next best spring herbicide to use?

There will be wild oats and brome mainly as well as broadleaves.

Would you use Broadway Star again or would Pacifica Plus be a useful alternative mode of action or will it be dissapointing?

Same mode of action- both are ALS jobbies. Wouldn't worry too much about the BLW component necessarily as can hit them another day +/- whatever.

 

[Midnight plough boy]

For Brome it’s got to be an SU so either Broadway, Pacifica or Monitor type products. Wild oats you could go with Topik or Foxtrot (or Axial Pro but cost prohibits that in my mind) to change the mode of action.

 

[Hampton]

While it works, but would keep using it. No point hoping to protect it to suddenly find it doesn’t work (like Atlantis)
Broadway is 15 years old now. Atlantis is 20

 

[Old apprentice]

Pacifica plus does nothing for brome, wilts it back and then recovers.. Was considering monolith some pdm, also if ok, .3 of. Flufenocet.

 

[robbie]

Pacifica plus does nothing for brome, wilts it back and then recovers.. Was considering monolith some pdm, also if ok, .3 of. Flufenocet.

Why not just use Broadway star and be done with it.

 

[merino]

Is there not a good CTU product back on the market in the UK yet?

If not, two liters of tower might be something to add to your tank mix.

 

[robbie]

Is there not a good CTU product back on the market in the UK yet?

If not, two liters of tower might be something to add to your tank mix.

If only!!!!

 

[SilliamWhale]

While it works, but would keep using it. No point hoping to protect it to suddenly find it doesn’t work (like Atlantis)
Broadway is 15 years old now. Atlantis is 20

True. And cheaper.

I don't have blackgrass.

And also reluctant to use pacifica before no till osr...

 

[Midnight plough boy]

True. And cheaper.

I don't have blackgrass.

And also reluctant to use pacifica before no till osr...

Definitely don’t use Pacifica before no till OSR

 

[Lothian]

Is Avadex factor any good against brome or is the dose rate too low compared to the granular product? Was thinking of using Avadex on endriggs/headlands to stop brome creeping out and take pressure off Broadway star.

 

[robbie]

Is Avadex factor any good against brome or is the dose rate too low compared to the granular product? Was thinking of using Avadex on endriggs/headlands to stop brome creeping out and take pressure off Broadway star.

I've tried avadex factor on headlands and I couldn't see where it did any good at all!!!! Still oats, BG ect.

Just use the Broadway star and live with the fact it'll become useless in time.
If it's not used too often in the rotation it's Life expectancy should be fairly good.

 

[ollie989898]

For Brome it’s got to be an SU so either Broadway, Pacifica or Monitor type products. Wild oats you could go with Topik or Foxtrot (or Axial Pro but cost prohibits that in my mind) to change the mode of action.

Monitor, cripes, now we're going for a trip down memory lane.

I have had indifferent results from pacifica on brome, but I put this down to unhelpful weather at that part of the season.

Rotations being wider should logically help with herbicide resistance.

 

[robbie]

Monitor, cripes, now we're going for a trip down memory lane.

I have had indifferent results from pacifica on brome, but I put this down to unhelpful weather at that part of the season.

Rotations being wider should logically help with herbicide resistance.

I've had less than brilliant results with Broadway and I think that was weather related. It needs to go on at a growy time.

 

[ollie989898]

I've had less than brilliant results with Broadway and I think that was weather related. It needs to go on at a growy time.

I have know people experience failures with broadway and ryegrass but I have never had issues. In fact, I have had broadway star kill ryegrass plants that were as tall as an A4 page. I'm sure weather conditions are something to do with it.

 

[bobk]

OP insinuating 2nd wheat is the work of the devil

Treat them like 1st here

 

[Old apprentice]

Is there any thing you can stack with Broadway star of different chemical.

 

[SilliamWhale]

OP insinuating 2nd wheat is the work of the devil

Treat them like 1st here

No I'm not!

 

[bobk]

Is there any thing you can stack with Broadway star of different chemical.

BS is good , but needs heat to work effectively