holywell farmer
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local sheep farmer to holywell yesterday shot 2 dogs attacking his sheep,
its been in my local paper today.
its been in my local paper today.
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thought for a minute black sheep had had a sequel
joking aside its not nice and seems to be a fair bit of this going on people just don't see to care
joking aside its not nice and seems to be a fair bit of this going on people just don't see to care
llamedos
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I dont think there is a day goes by now without a report of another dog attack.
N Wales seems v bad at the moment, but the Wildlife Crime officer there are very pro active, and a seeking prosecutions for every single attack where owners are known, they really are trying their best on Social media/ printed news to get the message across.
N Wales seems v bad at the moment, but the Wildlife Crime officer there are very pro active, and a seeking prosecutions for every single attack where owners are known, they really are trying their best on Social media/ printed news to get the message across.
Had one yesterday in Argyll. What is it with horsey types and out of control dogs? Heard a commotion in field, went down to witness a great Dane killing one of my ewes. My son ran from house to keep it off flock while I grabbed a gun but it disappeared. I know the owner, went to see her, took her to see the mauled ewe. Owner was tearful, apologetic etc.
I wish I'd nailed the dog. Only solution. Bet by end of weekend owner will have decided against putting it down and in favour of 'retraining'.
I wish I'd nailed the dog. Only solution. Bet by end of weekend owner will have decided against putting it down and in favour of 'retraining'.
Kelso690
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Same happened to me, saw the dogs playing tug of war with a day old lamb, ewe half dead in the beck, about 7 lost in total to horrific injuries. I recognised dogs but was so mad thought better of going round myself, got the police involved. Owners talked about PTS at first then changed their minds and said they're dogs wouldn't do that kind of thing. It's happened since but have never seen the dogs in the act again so can't really go accusing. Now I'm permanently worried with killer dogs living less than a mile across fields, and owners that are less than cooperative. We'll see what happens in court.
Kelso690
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Are the prosecutions successful? What usually happens?
Northeastfarmer
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Tie an old ewe up near a hedge...make a hide...shoot the dogs when they attack...bury the dogs...say nothing
llamedos
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From what I have seen from Twitter yes they are, it is a shame more forces are not as pro active as they are.
I know it does not stop the attacks but every case of worrying needs to be reported to your local police, make sure you get a crime number and make sure they record it as a worrying incident and a Rural Crime incident.
Only when these figures start to show in their statistics will other forces start to take notice.
If you are on Twitter follow @NWPRuralCrime and give him all the support you can
This is the one from NW
One of the first 2016 sheep attacks in North Wales which saw a farmer shoot two dogs has prompted fresh calls to keep pets under control.
Wyn Williams killed two lurchers that savaged his livestock and at least six injured in an attack at Ffyddion Farm, Lloc, near Holywell yesterday.
It continues a pattern in 2015 which saw dozens of sheep injured and dogs killed in incidents throughout the year.
In June last year the Daily Post reported there had been 108 dog attacks over the previous 12 months involving more than one sheep, averaging nine a month across North Wales.
Under the law farmers are entitled to kill dogs they believe are worrying their livestock.
Steve Bagnall
Farmer Wyn Williams had to shoot two dogs
Today farm union officials and charities pleaded again for owners to keep their pets on leads.
Farmers Union Wales (FUW) Caernarfon County executive officer, Gwynedd Watkin, said: “The public needs to be aware of how dangerous their pets can be to livestock if they are being chased or, even worse, attacked by dogs on the loose.
“Alongside animal injury and mortality, livestock worrying can also cause grazing parcels to be lost, if sheep are too stressed to return to the land.
“The union is appealing to all dog owners to ensure that they keep their dogs on leads whenever they see livestock in the same field as their dogs, even though that may be on the side of a mountain where the animals maybe a long way away."
A Dogs Trust spokeswoman said: “Dogs Trust would like to remind all dog owners to be cautious and keep their dogs under close control to ensure they do not worry livestock or stray onto neighbouring land.
"Prevention is key to ensure both animals remain safe."
North Wales Police
The pregnant ewe died after a dog attack in Deganwy
Sheila Stewart who runs Capricorn Animal Rescue Centre, near Mold, said: “Its not the farmers fault, its not the dogs fault, it is the fault of the dog owners who need to keep their pets under control.
“The damage the dogs can cause is terrible and the farmer had no choice but to shoot the dogs to protect his sheep.”
In December last year a pregnant ewe died after a dog attack at the Vardre in Deganwy.
November saw seven brutally killed over a month, who were savaged at field near Rhosneigr.
October saw a sheep on the Great Orme died after jumping from a ledge in a desperate bid to escape a husky attack.
In July an Alsatian was shot dead by a farmer after yet another horrific sheep attack left 10 sheep dead on farm land near Erlas Hall, Wrexham.
One of two Alsatians which carried out a savage attack on sheep in Wrexham and was legally shot
Dr Julia Wrathall, RSPCA chief scientific officer, said: “Dog owners should keep their dogs on a lead and under control when walking near livestock or in fields where they suspect farm animals could be grazing.
“We would also urge farmers to have good fencing to protect their stock and would encourage them to put up prominent signs to warn dog walkers that there are farm animals in fields.”
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nor...ell-farmer-who-10707646#ICID=sharebar_twitter
Kelso690
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Hasn't happened since Nov but Carried a gun for months hoping I'd get the chance again but never seen them since, have waited on a morning and night, but how long do you have to Waite. Not enough hours in the day as it is. Report it every time, police have been very good to be honest CSI officer came and took pictures in the field.
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holywell farmer
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met him nice guy wyn
holywell farmer
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the attack happened 2 miles from my house !
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I'm glad prosecutions are happening successfully. That part is rarely reported! Good to see a few dead dog photos as well, only way the general public will learn is to be shocked by the very real prospect of loosing their pet!
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The public, in general, treat the countryside as one huge playpen and toilet for their pets. The government should bring back dog licenses, and make damn sure that the cost covers the expense that dog owners inflict on the rest of society. Working dogs, dogs for the blind etc could be nil rated.
Dogs should always be kept on a lead when they're been walked through private land; it's not just livestock that can suffer, they also disturb wildlife. I hate to see them hunting out hedge bottoms and dyke sides along public footpaths.
Dogs should always be kept on a lead when they're been walked through private land; it's not just livestock that can suffer, they also disturb wildlife. I hate to see them hunting out hedge bottoms and dyke sides along public footpaths.
llamedos
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There was a case just before xmas, sorry I cant find the link now, but someone had their 2 dogs shot their 'babies' as they were described. They complained to the police that were handling the case, the dead dogs were duly returned to them by the police, needless to say they thought this 'heartless' ..
Here is another from earlier this week, ears bitten off, broken jaw, euthanased
Here is @Tim W s case http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/14179996.Final_warning_after_dog_attacks_on_sheep/
There are umpteen more since beginning of new year
Here is another from earlier this week, ears bitten off, broken jaw, euthanased
Here is @Tim W s case http://www.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/news/14179996.Final_warning_after_dog_attacks_on_sheep/
There are umpteen more since beginning of new year
Lincs Lass
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Is there such a thing as ''Retraining'',,once a dog attacks it will allways do it ,,had this discusion with my landlord as one of his friends has a terrier thats not wired up corectly ,,lovely little dog ,very friendly with its owner but his daughter darent take the grand kids round as the dog goes barmy ,jumping and snapping ,,hes tryed allsorts allong with retraining ,nothing stops it so he is contemplaing having it put down
matty
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Think its time they put lots of graphic pictures up of mauled sheep and dead dogs and never mind the normal "Warning these pictures contain upsetting images" they all need upsetting then "perhaps" it might get through to a few.
When i look around at some of the dog owners it's not surprising, there's no control or leadership "the dog" is top dog and its sits there wagging its tail looking all cute,they are absolutely oblivious to the fact it's got a full set of teeth and is quite capable of using them
When i look around at some of the dog owners it's not surprising, there's no control or leadership "the dog" is top dog and its sits there wagging its tail looking all cute,they are absolutely oblivious to the fact it's got a full set of teeth and is quite capable of using them
matty
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I think the only kind of "retraining " for some dogs is a bullet
and i suppose we shouldn't forget the owners too
it is the owners the dog is doing what dogs do its the owners that need the bullet should keep your animals under control or not have one i haven't a issue with farmers shooting dogs worry stock but it should be the owners they will just go out and get another and it shouldn't be that way dog ownership is a huge responsibility and is treated way to lightly .I think the only kind of "retraining " for some dogs is a bullet
not having a go at you but this really gets my goat
matty
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Yes it is down to the owners but when a dog gets a taste for it and it won't stop a bullet is the only way,sadly you cannot shoot the owners.But if you could it would solve the problem or just get them to keep their dog under control would help
Kelso690
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Unfortunately once a dog has been allowed to cross that line their is only one way to deal with it because it will always do it again. It's alright saying well keep the dog locked up it only takes a gate left open and it's gone. Most of these people can't recall their dogs anyway and they certainly can't catch them. Not the dogs fault it's the owners, but sadly a bullet is the only way.