Sheep dipper repair

[Andy84]

I want to get our circular concrete dipper back into action. It hasn’t been used for a few years because it has a few cracks that means it leaks slightly (not much it’s still 3/5 full but it has been wet obviously!) I was wondering if it’s possible to repair either by filling the cracks with concrete or bitumin or is does it make more sense to dig out and concrete in a new one? Has anyone repaired or relined one before?

 

[The sheep dipper man]

I want to get our circular concrete dipper back into action. It hasn’t been used for a few years because it has a few cracks that means it leaks slightly (not much it’s still 3/5 full but it has been wet obviously!) I was wondering if it’s possible to repair either by filling the cracks with concrete or bitumin or is does it make more sense to dig out and concrete in a new one? Has anyone repaired or relined one before?

If you think you can get it water tight again by a simple repair try that first. What have you got to loose.
If it still isnt holding water then install anew one might save you alot of time and money. As installation of a new one would mean a call to the Environment Agency so they can assess if you are putting it in suitable place they deam will not pose a risk to and water course, open ditch. Even if it is going in the same place as the old one the rules have changed on distances.

 

[neilo]

If you think you can get it water tight again by a simple repair try that first. What have you got to loose.
If it still isnt holding water then install anew one might save you alot of time and money. As installation of a new one would mean a call to the Environment Agency so they can assess if you are putting it in suitable place they deam will not pose a risk to and water course, open ditch. Even if it is going in the same place as the old one the rules have changed on distances.

How would EA know that you’d bought a new dipping bath to install? If it was a replacement, couldn’t you just have one delivered, dig out the old one and concrete in the new? Could be an opportunity to change the layout too of course, to make using it easier than most dips were ‘back in the day’. A lot of them were very poorly designed, probably as it was the only place they’d fit, and originally for a lot less sheep & more available labour.

 

[neilo]

I want to get our circular concrete dipper back into action. It hasn’t been used for a few years because it has a few cracks that means it leaks slightly (not much it’s still 3/5 full but it has been wet obviously!) I was wondering if it’s possible to repair either by filling the cracks with concrete or bitumin or is does it make more sense to dig out and concrete in a new one? Has anyone repaired or relined one before?

If you empty it, can you grind/clean out the cracks and fill with resin (or cement)?

 

[Nithsdale]

How would EA know that you’d bought a new dipping bath to install? If it was a replacement, couldn’t you just have one delivered, dig out the old one and concrete in the new? Could be an opportunity to change the layout too of course, to make using it easier than most dips were ‘back in the day’. A lot of them were very poorly designed, probably as it was the only place they’d fit, and originally for a lot less sheep & more available labour.

+1

If it needs replaced, just replace it and keep your head down.

But, if it can't be repaired.... can you still get fibreglass dippers? Ours is about 30yr old and still sound (put in on a grant) - just doesn't get used any more

 

[The sheep dipper man]

How would EA know that you’d bought a new dipping bath to install? If it was a replacement, couldn’t you just have one delivered, dig out the old one and concrete in the new? Could be an opportunity to change the layout too of course, to make using it easier than most dips were ‘back in the day’. A lot of them were very poorly designed, probably as it was the only place they’d fit, and originally for a lot less sheep & more available labour.

Its up to you but you are meant to consult the EA if you are instaling a new dip tub, its just if there was a incident and the were involved and they found out it was installed to close to a watercourse they you would have a massive problem anf lesve yourself open to prosecution.
They would give you guidance on were it will be best placed , as alot of old dip tubs were situated right next to a stream or similar now all thd rules have changed for distance to watercourses.
But at the end of the day its your decision.?

 

[neilo]

Its up to you but you are meant to consult the EA if you are instaling a new dip tub, its just if there was a incident and the were involved and they found out it was installed to close to a watercourse they you would have a massive problem anf lesve yourself open to prosecution.
They would give you guidance on were it will be best placed , as alot of old dip tubs were situated right next to a stream or similar now all thd rules have changed for distance to watercourses.
But at the end of the day its your decision.?

I get that, but this wouldn’t be a ‘new’ installation, just a repair/replacement to an existing set up. I would just get on and do it, without thinking about notifying any box tickers.

The rules on siting certainly have changed. We have an old dipping setup here (filled in many years ago). It was built where it could be filled from an adjacent stream that runs of the hill, and could be drained into the lake that sits 30m away on the other side. Several local farmers apparently used to run their flocks down to use it too, so not just one farm’s flock going through it. Different times....

 

[Andy84]

Surely if it’s the same style of dipper in the same place they would be hard pushed to say it was new or not!!

 

[Andy84]

Next question is If I was going to replace it would I be better putting back in a round one or go for a swim through? The current one is set up with a slip away hurdle?

 

[The sheep dipper man]

I get that, but this wouldn’t be a ‘new’ installation, just a repair/replacement to an existing set up. I would just get on and do it, without thinking about notifying any box tickers.

The rules on siting certainly have changed. We have an old dipping setup here (filled in many years ago). It was built where it could be filled from an adjacent stream that runs of the hill, and could be drained into the lake that sits 30m away on the other side. Several local farmers apparently used to run their flocks down to use it too, so not just one farm’s flock going through it. Different times....

A repair shouldn't be an issue i would have thought, However if a replacement with a new dip tub is taking place then technicaly they may consider it as a new installation. You know what these people are like!.

I know when i pull on site to dip we have certin criteria we have to meet to site the dipper. Ball ache sometimes i must admit

 

[The sheep dipper man]

Surely if it’s the same style of dipper in the same place they would be hard pushed to say it was new or not!!

You know aswell as me the dont think that logically ha ha!

 

[The sheep dipper man]

Next question is If I was going to replace it would I be better putting back in a round one or go for a swim through? The current one is set up with a slip away hurdle?

Think it comes down to preference and space available i would say

 

[Andy84]

You know aswell as me the dont think that logically ha ha!

??

 

[Andy84]

Think it comes down to preference and space available i would say

do you find one works better than the other?

 

[neilo]

Has anyone designed/built a cage dipper to work on a static site? You’d think it would be fairly simple to make such a thing, and just need a rectangular tank to dunk them in. It would potentially be a lot safer and easier to use too.

 

[LAMBCHOPS]

Anybody got a mobile dipping trailer for sale of any recommendations as to what to look out for

 

[Fendt516profi]

Anybody got a mobile dipping trailer for sale of any recommendations as to what to look out for

Holes

 

[LAMBCHOPS]

Holes

Make i mean by main fabricator or can you get a private bespoke one made

 

[The sheep dipper man]

Has anyone designed/built a cage dipper to work on a static site? You’d think it would be fairly simple to make such a thing, and just need a rectangular tank to dunk them in. It would potentially be a lot safer and easier to use too.

Yes we have one of our cage dip designs installed on a farm in decon

 

[Fendt516profi]

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