Sheep turn over crate s

[whindy]

Has any body got a scotpen Peakhandler
Air operated crate . I have seen one in use the guy loved it . He had only had it 8 months in the long term do the sheep get used to it and not want to go near?. Any views appreciated

 

[Jackson4]

Dont know anyone but these machines look ideal for a contractor. I'd happily pay to have mine bellied and dagged. Its good to see these machines being sold here. Anybody know how much they woud cost? I suppose it could be made alot cheaper and simpler still.. remember seeing one without the air assist, you just pulled the sheep over, assisted by the weight of the other one.

 

[exmoor dave]

Has any body got a scotpen Peakhandler
Air operated crate . I have seen one in use the guy loved it . He had only had it 8 months in the long term do the sheep get used to it and not want to go near?. Any views appreciated

Looks a good bit of kit, but like with all bits of kit you've got to ask yourself what jobs you are going most.

If it's turning sheep over to trim feet then it's needs questioning if something could be done to avoid needing to trim in the first place.

We used to have a Harrington turn over crate and separate weigh crate but have now changed to a clamp with eid and weigh bars.

The reason for this was, we asked our selves what job we did the most- weighing lambs by a country mile (&now ewe hoggs and all ewes cause it's so easy), followed by clipping ewes twice a year, everything else done in the race.
the only jobs the turn over crate did that a clamp can't (or not very well at least) was belly clipping, feet trimming and orf scratching.
Of those, belly clipping is only ever the last 50/100 lambs
Very little foot trimming now, culling ewes and dry farm helps that.
Don't orf scratch anymore.


The clamp is far better, easier and faster for clipping than the Harrington ever was.

&I can collect weights every time I do any other job.

Going down the shedder route will cut out the clipping.

Weighing sheep is our most frequent and regular job so we got kit to do that primarily

 

[David.]

Have an idea they were about £7k when the man was demoing one at Welsh Show couple of years back.

 

[GTB]

There's a Prattley turn over crate doing the rounds on Facebook now. It looks really simple and fast compared to others. Ideal for crutching IMO.

 

[llamedos]

There's a Prattley turn over crate doing the rounds on Facebook now. It looks really simple and fast compared to others. Ideal for crutching IMO.

 

[llamedos]

Page 19 here

https://issuu.com/ritchey/docs/ritchey_-_complete_stock_management?e=1185219/3873290

@Gator

 

[Jackson4]

Have an idea they were about £7k when the man was demoing one at Welsh Show couple of years back.

Eeeeeekkk! You'd have to be a contracter doing alot of crutching and bellying to justify that.

 

[GTB]

Thanks, that's the one. Very handy tool I reckon.

 

[Jackson4]

Looks a good bit of kit, but like with all bits of kit you've got to ask yourself what jobs you are going most.

If it's turning sheep over to trim feet then it's needs questioning if something could be done to avoid needing to trim in the first place.

We used to have a Harrington turn over crate and separate weigh crate but have now changed to a clamp with eid and weigh bars.

The reason for this was, we asked our selves what job we did the most- weighing lambs by a country mile (&now ewe hoggs and all ewes cause it's so easy), followed by clipping ewes twice a year, everything else done in the race.
the only jobs the turn over crate did that a clamp can't (or not very well at least) was belly clipping, feet trimming and orf scratching.
Of those, belly clipping is only ever the last 50/100 lambs
Very little foot trimming now, culling ewes and dry farm helps that.
Don't orf scratch anymore.


The clamp is far better, easier and faster for clipping than the Harrington ever was.

&I can collect weights every time I do any other job.

Going down the shedder route will cut out the clipping.

Weighing sheep is our most frequent and regular job so we got kit to do that primarily

I think winter bellying lambs if you sell late, and mainly dagging ewes in the spring. If your breeding your own and are foot scoring them for scald, footrot resistance and shape etc this looks labour saving.. well except for the price tag. A manual one around a grand would be of interest.

 

[Jackson4]

Now that is just like the idea i had for an all in one way, clamp drench etc except i thought they'd run better if push clamped before turning over! These ideas started silly complicated and expensive and are now much more straight forward. Fantastic simple labour saving stuff. Whats the price tag for the prattley?

 

[whindy]

Like the look of the prattly .the Peakhandler needs a compressor to operate clamps gates etc a lot to go wrong with age .was impressive to watch working

 

[100percent]

My neighbour has one that he imported from Australia about 5 years ago and he told Clive Houlday about them. We did a demo to a group of sheep farmers alongside it with our conveyor, the conveyor was much faster and better but you could use the peak handler on your own at a push, which you just cannot with the conveyor as it requires plenty man/dog power behind it, we use the conveyor for crutching while vaccinating pre lambing and with every ewe turned the odd foot gets squared up and the odd bad bag gets picked out. Turning ewes you get about 1500 a day out of it, but if your just drenching capacity is between 800-1200/hour so probably contractors machines really.

 

[Jackson4]

How much are the conveyors such as these - http://www.conveyor-manufacturers.co.uk/Products/sheep-conveyors.html
Seem very simple, belt, motor, switch etc.. Only thing with conveyors is you will need a person to shove sheep on.

 

[100percent]

We made a stainless steel 4 metre long conveyor 9 years ago which cost us IRO of 8k back then, on a hydraulic lowering chassis, money well spent still as new!
Not sure how much these ones are but they will be dear as the conveyors and controls themselves are about 4K

 

[Jackson4]

just seen one in fw from 2013... £10000 + few grand for eid,scales etc.... part of me saying.... I can make one of those for a few hundred couple kilowat motors, simple switch, make or buy some rollers off e-bay, no hydraulics

 

[sherg]

just seen one in fw from 2013... £10000 + few grand for eid,scales etc.... part of me saying.... I can make one of those for a few hundred couple kilowat motors, simple switch, make or buy some rollers off e-bay, no hydraulics

Had a feeling they were about £7000 for a 7ft one without any eid or weighing

 

[Jackson4]

Had a feeling they were about £7000 for a 7ft one without any eid or weighing

sorry 2012 just had a quick look..http://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/royal-highland-show-sheep-handling-goes-mobile.htm

that was for a 6ft one. guess the price will have come down it was 4 years ago.

 

[sherg]

The 6ft one is on a trailer for £9800 so probably 7 grand for one without a trailer after discount is probably not far off the mark

 

[hinchy]

Anyone know the cost of the prattley crate? Looks a nimble piece of kit that could also fit on the pickup/mobile yard which is where the combi clamp falls short.