Shifting Sheep

Y Fan Wen

Member
Location
N W Snowdonia
Has anyone designed a one way gate to put in a field boundary?
I have a woodland which is so steep and overgrown we are finding it impossible to get out every single feral sheep.
I was wondering if I arranged for an empty pasture next to the woodland, then they might be tempted by the fresh spring flush to migrate into it and then be unable to return.
Before experimenting, I thought I'd ask if anyone had already done it?
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
Would one of these be any use? I don't know if they'd be bold enough to push through but maybe if you left it open for a couple of days first.......???

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Purli R

Member
I see you've never come across any feral sheep if thats what you think'll happen. They'll smell the dog, (e.g. Not even see it) split themselves off and never be seen again.
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I see you've never come across any feral sheep if thats what you think'll happen. They'll smell the dog, (e.g. Not even see it) split themselves off and never be seen again.
Agree. Getting the barstewards out of woods is damn near impossible. We do sometimes have a spot of luck, when the mountain is empty in winter we might chuck a feed block inside the gate and leave the gate open. Sometimes they go for the block and if you happen to be at the right place at the right time you can shut the gate. This can take a few weeks though...

Any budding sheep psychologists out there care to tell us why normal sheep lose their herding instinct after being in the woods for just a few months (even weeks)?
 

GTB

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
What does a feral sheep look like? Does it have any saleable value?

What's a feral sheep?! Intrigued!
They're just normal sheep that have got into blocks of forestry land and you can't get them out. They lose their herding instinct very quickly for some reason and there are very few collies alive that are fast enough to head them off before they have scarpered in various directions. They will sometimes be two or three (or more) generations too if they have managed to lamb and/or breed in the woods.

Edit: Forgot to say, they can have two or three years wool on them but will never maggot as there must be something in the pine that keeps the flies off. Unfortunately they can be riddled with scab and being that some blocks of forestry can be tens of thousands of acres,they can come into contact with numerous different surrounding flocks. Having some of your sheep in forestry land is generally frowned upon as it's seen as poor husbandry to let them get in there (but it happens to us all occasionally).
 
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Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Agree. Getting the barstewards out of woods is damn near impossible. We do sometimes have a spot of luck, when the mountain is empty in winter we might chuck a feed block inside the gate and leave the gate open. Sometimes they go for the block and if you happen to be at the right place at the right time you can shut the gate. This can take a few weeks though...

Any budding sheep psychologists out there care to tell us why normal sheep lose their herding instinct after being in the woods for just a few months (even weeks)?
I suspect it's just a bit disorientating so they often lose sight of their mates and just get used to it. Lack of daylight probably doesn't help.
Feral stock are bloody clever.
I reckon they would just hop back over a normal non return gate, maybe if you screwed a couple of perspex sheets onto the gates?
 
They will sometimes be two or three (or more) generations too if they have managed to lamb and/or breed in the woods.

Edit: Forgot to say, they can have two or three years wool on them but will never maggot as there must be something in the pine that keeps the flies off. ..............

wooly sheep.jpg




I can't find the picture of one we had on our hill which they estimated had been out there 8 years.
 

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