Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Now. Think I'll just give it manganese at moment. Fungicide in mix too, its got a fair bit of mildew.
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- Thread starter Billboy1
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Wow. And to state the bleeding obvious you are way North of me. My barley disease has begun to disappear as fert and Mn applications have taken effect.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Think mine will too!
snipe
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- Location
- west yorkshire
On lush barley I was thinking .15 moddus + 1.5ccc in a few weeks then same again 3 weeks later. Does that sound ok. Would rather spend a few £££ extra and make sure no flat barley.
Yes, cheap insurance against lodging and its associated ballache and yield loss but don’t forget that PGRs reduce yield in the absence of lodging due to causing plant stress.
Reduced rates last year in the drought.....
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
The niab tag trials on pgr make for interesting reading.
I'll be going with a max of 1.5 ccc and that be it the weather normally does the rest the regulation. I would be hard pushed to use moddus unless very desperate and I certainly would never use terpal or cerone.
I'll be going with a max of 1.5 ccc and that be it the weather normally does the rest the regulation. I would be hard pushed to use moddus unless very desperate and I certainly would never use terpal or cerone.
Simon Chiles
DD Moderator
- Location
- Surrey/ Kent Border, UK
We stuck 0.15 litre Scitec (Moddus) and 1.5 litre CCC on this today
It’s Amarillo Triticale, bear in mind it normally grows as high as my shoulders and if it gets away too quick runs the risk of late frosts hitting some of the seed heads causing them to become blind.
It’s Amarillo Triticale, bear in mind it normally grows as high as my shoulders and if it gets away too quick runs the risk of late frosts hitting some of the seed heads causing them to become blind.
- Location
- Leicestershire
Most CCC are max total dose 2l/ha, so 0.15 moddus at each timing and then either 1l/ha CCC at each timing or 1.5l/ha followed by 0.5l/ha. Will quite possibly need a follow up with something like Terpal at GS33-37, depending on spring growth, (and if it rains!).
- Location
- S.E
Interestingly I believe YEN results are starting to show a correlation between growth regulators and positive yield impact. Certainly a crop that lodges will yield less and this year there is good early growth and lots of potential both in terms of yield and lodging
ollie989898
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That will still be growing up in the air irrespective of what you do.
Not convinced ccc or moddus shorten crops that much unless you are ham fisted in dry weather, they make the stems thicker though for sure
Had a guy who refused to use any PGR of any kind wheat was no taller than usual but did feel very floppy walking through it.
That triticale- whoever claimed it was 'disease resistant'.
Simon Chiles
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- Location
- Surrey/ Kent Border, UK
I didn’t say that it wouldn’t. I’m using the Moddus to thicken the stem walls so that it stays standing and both of them to slow the growth down so that it’s not too advanced if we get a late frost. You could get frost damage on wheat if the frost was late enough however as triticale roars through the growth stages much quicker it is obviously more susceptible.
I agree that with the new warrior rusts the good ol’ days of not needing any fungicide on Triticale are sadly over however it still requires a far lower fungicide spend than wheat.
ollie989898
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I tried various PGR approaches and the stuff always grew like wildfire and so tall. I never had any lodge though really in fairness. Id prefer to grow triticale than rye though.
Both seemed quite slow to germinate and establish compared to wheat. Im not sure how late you can drill it.
- Location
- Vale of Belvoir
Hybrid barley is having PGR and micronutrients over the next few days.
That’s a bit drastic. Sometimes you can put the brakes on a lush crop with Cerone or Terpal later on. Look up “bounce back” in winter barley in your TAG strategy guides
If you’ve used chlormequat in winter barley you’ll have to follow up with something or you’ll have longer internodes later on which weakens the straw as badly as no PGR at all.
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- the brecks norfolk
I know all about bounce back but I've never really had any thing go flat, brackle once fit yes but never steam roller flat.
My cousin used terpal on flaggon last year and he lost yield, I did worn him and he did admit he wishes he'd left it out and had some lodging.
Pgr' s are a important tool but to me it can seem rather counter productive to try and promote and maintain healthy crop growth and them hit it with something which restricts it's growth.
I do think very good K indexes over all very good overall nutrition helps a me a lot.
My cousin used terpal on flaggon last year and he lost yield, I did worn him and he did admit he wishes he'd left it out and had some lodging.
Pgr' s are a important tool but to me it can seem rather counter productive to try and promote and maintain healthy crop growth and them hit it with something which restricts it's growth.
I do think very good K indexes over all very good overall nutrition helps a me a lot.
ollie989898
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Be fine.
ollie989898
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That’s a bit drastic. Sometimes you can put the brakes on a lush crop with Cerone or Terpal later on. Look up “bounce back” in winter barley in your TAG strategy guides
I agree. Id rather touch the crop in moderate doses with 3c and moddus than just rely on cerone or terpal. In a hot dry spell it might be over doing it.
3c and moddus are much cheaper and you can change dose according to what the crop looks like at the time.