Simtech questions

[Warp Land Farmer]

The front wheels are Quite clever in design but surprisingly simple as are the pivoting legs which is key to the steering of the machine and then it’s the overall geometry that makes it actually quite easy to push along circa 150+ on a 3m depending on soil type and depth. The feet are sumo gls feet so readily available

Interesting videos on YouTube - are there any of a DD try or drill afterwards rather than a combi?

 

[neilo]

Looks the ultimate machine for the job, bit pricey for my small acreage maybe, how many ponies does it take to push 3metre and who's legs are they using? It looks like the steering wheels make it quite complex.

If you have front linkage, wouldn’t a front mounted S tine do the same thing? Cheap as chips to knock something up from an old frame?

 

[Sprayer 1]

If you have front linkage, wouldn’t a front mounted S tine do the same thing? Cheap as chips to knock something up from an old frame?

I wasn't sure an s tine would be strong enough. The pan is only 5 inches down but pretty solid clay. My ideal was to drop the disc off the simtech and make a bar with a tine on to go in its place, but as you will know, the mounting are not over robust .I would prefer the tines behind the tractor so once drilled ,there would be no more traffic over it. I mentioned to Simon Clark at one of the shows of my idea, but he couldn't see why there was a need.

 

[Renaultman]

I wasn't sure an s tine would be strong enough. The pan is only 5 inches down but pretty solid clay. My ideal was to drop the disc off the simtech and make a bar with a tine on to go in its place, but as you will know, the mounting are not over robust .I would prefer the tines behind the tractor so once drilled ,there would be no more traffic over it. I mentioned to Simon Clark at one of the shows of my idea, but he couldn't see why there was a need.

I can see your logic. I would be tempted to have a play with a spade and check if you have a pan. I would also think if you are going towards DD with sympathetic traffic management any pan would be removed in one pass so maybe a sub soiler may be your best option.

 

[Sprayer 1]

Been at this DD lark for 6 years now , and think I am getting the hang of it. I find being sympathetic with the land my biggest problem as I try to put at least 10 ton per acre of fym each year. The worms are loving it and multiplying but only in the top soil, they are not going down much. If we could just get a nice dry autumn the job would be a doddle

 

[Ruston3w]

We played about for a couple of years trying to push a light toolbar in front of our T-sem, whatever we did always ended up spoiling the job, the drill liked it the firmer the going. We settled on pushing a front press when we have subsoiled . If possible we subsoil early and get something growing to help with depth control.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

The mantis is a low surface disturbance machine with leading discs in front of the legs to disturb the surface as little as possible whilst breaking the pan. It the front mounted version of the rear toolbar which grange and Agriweld produce this is specially for use with rear mounted machines like the Simtech or p/h combinations etc whilst the rear toolbar is for use with trailed and semi mounted machines. There are plenty of rear mounted ones towing 750a’s and weaving GD’s to my knowledge so something similar on the front would work with the Simtech in a similar manner

 

[Ruston3w]

The mantis is a low surface disturbance machine with leading discs in front of the legs to disturb the surface as little as possible whilst breaking the pan. It the front mounted version of the rear toolbar which grange and Agriweld produce this is specially for use with rear mounted machines like the Simtech or p/h combinations etc whilst the rear toolbar is for use with trailed and semi mounted machines. There are plenty of rear mounted ones towing 750a’s and weaving GD’s to my knowledge so something similar on the front would work with the Simtech in a similar manner

We may have to agree to disagree here, the 750 and GD (as we also run) have reasonable depth control, the Simtech , which I like very much for some jobs, really relies on solid or level ground, when we tried running tines in front without a following roller the ground was too inconsistent and seeding depth was beyond awful. Just my 2cents worth. Richard.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Fair call both of us can only speak as we find the rear mounted toolbar equivalent did go well with a Kockerling and a Horsch but they are a different animal and as you say tine drills do like it firm abd level

 

[Michael S]

We may have to agree to disagree here, the 750 and GD (as we also run) have reasonable depth control, the Simtech , which I like very much for some jobs, really relies on solid or level ground, when we tried running tines in front without a following roller the ground was too inconsistent and seeding depth was beyond awful. Just my 2cents worth. Richard.

Fair call both of us can only speak as we find the rear mounted toolbar equivalent did go well with a Kockerling and a Horsch but they are a different animal and as you say tine drills do like it firm abd level

I think that if you were to use a front loosening tool (or loosening as a separate operation) with a Simtech you would need to use the front roller rather than the discs. I assume that only a handful of Simtech owners have the front roller? I don't but have enquired about the price, whilst it would add versatility I don't think I would have enough work for the roller to justify it.

 

[Ruston3w]

I think that if you were to use a front loosening tool (or loosening as a separate operation) with a Simtech you would need to use the front roller rather than the discs. I assume that only a handful of Simtech owners have the front roller? I don't but have enquired about the price, whilst it would add versatility I don't think I would have enough work for the roller to justify it.

We ended up fitting a narrow roller between the tractor wheels, in front of the disc gang.....it runs down the soft bit between the wheels allowing us to drill using slotted top link hole, even when it's soft. It still didn't help with tine marks from shallow cultivation though. L/D subsoiled is fine.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

I think that if you were to use a front loosening tool (or loosening as a separate operation) with a Simtech you would need to use the front roller rather than the discs. I assume that only a handful of Simtech owners have the front roller? I don't but have enquired about the price, whilst it would add versatility I don't think I would have enough work for the roller to justify it.

Good idea been thinking in that the loosen would work a bit like a claydon in conjunction with the Simtech what leg spacing is it at. The mantis is at 500mm

 

[Michael S]

Good idea been thinking in that the loosen would work a bit like a claydon in conjunction with the Simtech what leg spacing is it at. The mantis is at 500mm

Simtech drills vary a little in row spacing, my 4m has 22 coulters making it 18.2cm.