Single or Twin Rotor

I am about to dive in and buy my first rake, currently hay bob.

Just bought a round baler for the first time and can't decide whether to buy a new single rotor or spend same money on used twin?

On the plus siide twin is faster and better rows for baler but will be worn compared with a new single rotor. It is a real dilemma for me at the moment and I have set a 'deadline' of this week to make a decision.

All suggestions appreciated, but don't suggest new twin as I haven't the budget.
 

Maxxum-man

Member
Location
North west
Single rotors are a pain in the backside when coming to change fields through narrow gateways having to take rake arms off! Find a small twin rotor, much more consistent row for bales aswell!
 

jumbojimbo

Member
Location
cornwall
With a single you have the option to put as many rows as you like into one but as jack6480 says unless your fields are bigger than ours it becomes a pain taking off the tines between fields. That said people will change a single rotor to get a twin but only change a twin when it is worn out so tidy second hand twins may be hard to come by.
A crop rowed with a twin will have less lumps to bale than one done with a single rotor as the grass lies one way as oposed to half one way and half the other but that said a single is far better than a haybob.
 

balerman

Member
Location
N Devon
Depends a lot on who is going to use it,someone steady and willing to fiddle about should do a good job with a single rotor,but don't send a student in a hurry,or anyone not used to it or you will end up with badly shaped bales,rowing up is crucial for good bales.Twin rotors much easier to make a good row.
 

Andyrob

Moderator
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I am about to dive in and buy my first rake, currently hay bob.

Just bought a round baler for the first time and can't decide whether to buy a new single rotor or spend same money on used twin?

On the plus siide twin is faster and better rows for baler but will be worn compared with a new single rotor. It is a real dilemma for me at the moment and I have set a 'deadline' of this week to make a decision.

All suggestions appreciated, but don't suggest new twin as I haven't the budget.

why not take advantage of the 0% finance on the Vicon rakes?
 

Stoxs

Member
All depends on how much you are going to do per season.
40 -50 acres then a single will do fine, 200+ and i think a twin would be worth having.
Never had any problems baling behind a single rotor rake, as others have said you need someone sensible on it. Bigish twins are often quiet tall when folded up, if you got lots of low branches around roads you might have some problems wihtout taking half the tines off.
Also will there be enough staff aorund to have someone on it all the time? if not a twin is the way to go, man rowing up can then follow up wrapping or picking up .

Much easyer with a twin and quicker.
 
I bought a very old kuhn ga7301 twin rotor towards the end of last summer, cheap with arms bent tines missing and all the tyres perished, I only rowed up about 50 acres with it last year and I am well pleased, it is certainly an upgrade from my haybob 5000. Now do I sell the haybob as funds towards a sh lely 6 rotor tedder or keep it as a backup in case the rake dies? the rake could be doing up to 200 acres a year.
 
Do you have big crops of silage? If you leave it go massive no baler will touch three into one ever, local idiot did that, and spent the night splitting the rows with pitchforks infront of the baler!!! You are lucky to find a twin rotor traded in for bigger, pick a stick when you see it etc, but the usual reason for a rake to become second hand is it will be bent, same goes for tedders.
 

Monty

Member
Depends how big the fields are and how much your baler can cope with. Don't want to go raking 25 ft of heavy first cut together to find the baler won't cope. We find 10-12 ft of first cut and 20ft of second cut are ideal for the baler. Whats wrong with a second hand single rotor? There are lots of tidy ones about from people who get fed up with them and upgrade to a twin rotor. We have an old 3m kuhn which is painfully slow (4acres/hr) but makes a fantastic job. The bales are much tidier and denser than ones baled behind a haybob.
 

Grassman

Member
Location
Derbyshire
A lely rotonde is an excellent compromise. Clears about 5.5 metres and leaves an excellent row.
You can narrow it down hydraulically for transport and making smaller rows in thick crops.
 

Woody

Member
The lely would be a good choice.

Even if you have a large twin rotor (Kuhn, Claas or whatever) you don't have to run it a full width if the crop is heavy. Just over lap a little more.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
Had a rotunde and while vary width was good, but as it had a fixed headstock it is crap on corners and nothing cleans up like a vertical tine
 

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