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glen lad

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Mixed Farmer
Hi anybody any dealings with issues regarding company wanting to site one on my land.
I think it might be a waste of time as the money they are talking about is pretty poor and
once you accept it i presume it would be hard to get rid off because of the new telecommunication act.
 

Brisel

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Location
Dorset
Correct. The new Telecomms Code of Practice was written by the phone mast operators who argue that sites should only be ag value e.g. £100/acre. For a 10m x 10m plot that's stuff all. Of course the value of the site to them is a lot more! Tell them to make a sensible offer or walk away. If they threaten court action, get a specialist land agent on this. Look up the recent Lands Tribunal case of CTIL vs Compton Beauchamp Estate that the mast operator lost.
 

Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Correct. The new Telecomms Code of Practice was written by the phone mast operators who argue that sites should only be ag value e.g. £100/acre. For a 10m x 10m plot that's stuff all. Of course the value of the site to them is a lot more! Tell them to make a sensible offer or walk away. If they threaten court action, get a specialist land agent on this. Look up the recent Lands Tribunal case of CTIL vs Compton Beauchamp Estate that the mast operator lost.

Not just that....it also does not take into account the inconvenience factor.

Something BT/electric wayleaves fail to do also.
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
I take that comment back slightly.....

The NFU were looking into the inconvenience factor back in 2015 or so and I just went to look up whether this had concluded in anything as I had heard no more of it.

Apparently as of April this year have published their new negotiated wayleaves for infield poles/pylons.

Article here: https://www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/farmers-to-receive-new-electricity-advisory-wayleave-payments/

Calculation document here: https://www.nfuonline.com/nfu-online/business/utilities-and-infrastructure/guidance-note-explaining-wayleave-calculations-on/

(Sorry for slight thread hijack!)
 

Pie face

Member
Does it just apply to new wayleaves, we have a few electric that pay 70 a year and about 20 bt poles that we've never been paid for
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Does it just apply to new wayleaves, we have a few electric that pay 70 a year and about 20 bt poles that we've never been paid for
The new Electronic Comms Code applies to new wayleaves I believe.

The new NFU payments apply to any wayleaves current or new.

If the BT poles serve only your property you may not be due a payment on them as no wayleave is required. If not and they serve other property owners also, you may be due a payment for which Openreach will want a wayleave. This would then be under the new Elec. Comms Code. I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to get away with an easement (one off payment for permanent right) rather than a wayleave. That said, even with wayleaves they almost have a right to keep them there forever (even if you wanted to terminate wayleave)....yet would still need to keep paying annually.
 

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