Smart meter

[tomlad]

Re p v panels
A mates on old meter old old he does not want a smart meter
They've been trying to install for ages. Hes always out !!


If i can upgrade to 3 phase . Could that be on smart meter

 

[Steevo]

If i can upgrade to 3 phase . Could that be on smart meter

Yes 3ph can be on a smart meter.

 

[upnortheast]

We put in a new 3ph supply 3 years ago. Smart meter installed (but without the display they use for domestic instalaltions.) but doesn`t transmit data cos they used a voda sim which is the worst network here

 

[TheTallGuy]

can upgrade to 3 phase . Could that be on smart meter

Yep, there are dedicated 3 phase smart meters although I have seen individually metered phases. Three phase units tend not to come with the remote displays - some suppliers have online monitoring, although this is not real-time.

 

[sheepmatilda]

Have been watching this thread, what am I missing why would you not want a smart meter? There is no extra cost, you only pay what you use. Farm has one, I still sometimes get a est bill but mostly it sends the reading.

 

[TheTallGuy]

Have been watching this thread, what am I missing why would you not want a smart meter? There is no extra cost, you only pay what you use. Farm has one, I still sometimes get a est bill but mostly it sends the reading.

Many reasons, but a big one for me is that a lot of these so called smart meters have the facility to remotely disconnect your supply. In principle it's not a bad idea, but billing errors and computer foul ups have resulted in ridiculous bills and entirely innocent folk being disconnected. There's also the issue that without regular physical meter readings an important visual safety and meter bypassing check will no longer be taking place. That's before we get into switching supplier potentially requires changing meters as they don't all use the same ones & the meters will usually go into dumb mode when the supplier is switched over.

 

[phillipe]

Have been watching this thread, what am I missing why would you not want a smart meter? There is no extra cost, you only pay what you use. Farm has one, I still sometimes get a est bill but mostly it sends the reading.

There a many instances of smart meters giving incorrect readings ,and never in your favour

 

[Case290]

My smart meter has never worked and I send in the meter readings and some times get a meter man visit. Wast of time in my book.
Mines 3 phase when I asked about them (we don't install that model anymore.)

 

[Exfarmer]

Many reasons, but a big one for me is that a lot of these so called smart meters have the facility to remotely disconnect your supply. In principle it's not a bad idea, but billing errors and computer foul ups have resulted in ridiculous bills and entirely innocent folk being disconnected. There's also the issue that without regular physical meter readings an important visual safety and meter bypassing check will no longer be taking place. That's before we get into switching supplier potentially requires changing meters as they don't all use the same ones & the meters will usually go into dumb mode when the supplier is switched over.

I dontt think smart meters can disconnect supply. I believe all they do is send a signal digitally via the sim card and mobile phone network.
This signal is a pip for every 1000th. of a unit used. This is logged to a spreadsheet every half hour.
The in house display picks up on these pips to show rate of usage
I may be wrong though

 

[sheepmatilda]

I was always told that power and water could not be disconnected unless a court order, or pay as you go meter. If you don't pay you local ag dealer / supplier / fed mill they will put you on stop whats the difference?

 

[TheTallGuy]

I dontt think smart meters can disconnect supply. I believe all they do is send a signal digitally via the sim card and mobile phone network.
This signal is a pip for every 1000th. of a unit used. This is logged to a spreadsheet every half hour.
The in house display picks up on these pips to show rate of usage
I may be wrong though

Most smart meter families include a remote disconnect option. Strictly speaking an energy supplier is supposed to go through a specific legal process to perform a disconnect, but this is not always adhered to, plus there's the usual level of incompetence that leads to mistakes. I am aware (first hand) of a case where a meter was repeatedly paired to the wrong account & led to a home owner being disconnected for several days whilst the energy firm responsible denied any fault.

The newer generation of meters are better in that they use the new dedicated meter network that all suppliers hook into so should make it easier to resolve issues and switch suppliers, but not everyone is rolling out the new meters yet. It is funny that I keep getting messages to tell me my meter is obsolete and it will have to be replaced with a smart meter - every time the guys come out they say 'no signal' and as it is a pre-pay one they can't use a smart one in dumb mode - and there's no alternative to the existing one, then six weeks on we start again.

 

[Exfarmer]

Sorry you are correct some do have a remote disconnect facility

 

[colhonk]

And just who`s electricity do they use to power themselves? and do they use your wifi to send readings? I have refused a few times to have one installed.

 

[Lincsman]

And just who`s electricity do they use to power themselves? and do they use your wifi to send readings? I have refused a few times to have one installed.

Probably your power and its a phone sim not wi fi, but your power again to send the "text"... they will deny it!!

 

[Chickcatcher]

Have been watching this thread, what am I missing why would you not want a smart meter? There is no extra cost, you only pay what you use. Farm has one, I still sometimes get a est bill but mostly it sends the reading.

What we have found is that the "Smart Meter" got the read outs zeroed without us being in formed we usually do a monitoring every 49 days and it took me a bit by surprise that they had done it and it was from this point they stuck me on the high tariff that runs from 4pm to 7pm everyday of the year and at the moment that tariff is 29.7pence per Kw where normal day tariff is 6.9p/Kw

 

[Exfarmer]

6.9 is. One hell of a tarriff They definitely do not want you using during 4 to 7 though, makes it worth installing a battery I would think

 

[7610 super q]

And they have a reputation for catching fire too.

 

[Wombat]

And they have a reputation for catching fire too.

The normal ones do that as well

 

[robo]

They to!d us we had to have one i said bring it on ,man arrives and tests the signal and annouces you have no signal ,i know i said i told your office that ,notning has a signal here,i have wasted my time he says ,i know i say ,muppets

exactly the same here two years ago, now they want to come again . told them sorry but we still in same place havnt had time to drag the house up the road

 

[countryman765]

By accepting the smart meter aren't you also accepting a new contract? Not the best way to get the best price