Arthur Living
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Do people think it will make a difference with blackgrass? Never did a full job, they are not claiming so this time, but blackgass is certainly worse since it disappeared.
So autumn IPU is back
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Arthur Living
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- cambridgeshire
Apparently didn't get blackgrass on the label because it didn't achieve 80% control but we always used in mixes with DFF, stomp, trifluralin etc anyway.
spikeislander
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- bedfordshire
Haven't heard this has somebody got details. It was losing its way anyhow but be nice to have the choice to use it.
Is it back to how it was or so restricted to make it unusable
Is it back to how it was or so restricted to make it unusable
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BG won't have seen it for a while so should do some good I would think. Avadex was the same here. Had a long break and it seems a bit more sensitive.
http://www.fwi.co.uk/arable/new-technology-revives-ipu-herbicide.htm
1500g/Ha old rate cut to 250g/Ha reformulated to be more active.
1500g/Ha old rate cut to 250g/Ha reformulated to be more active.
- Location
- Shropshire
And I suppose the re formulated version is £20 per litre compared to £3 for the old ipu
I've not asked for any prices, but I would think you are not far off the mark.
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- Shropshire
It's going to be £8/ac minimum I would think.
IMO there isn't enough active ingredient to do a good job on blackgrass but if you have a really bad BG problem & want to put it as part of an expensive stack it may sensitise BG for a later application of Atlantis/Pacifica. There needs to be a reasonable time period after applying IPU before applying SUs or they can be antagonistic.
Personally if BG is that bad I'd rather recommend glyphosate & a spring crop instead of spending ever more on vast numbers of graminicides chasing an unsustainable husbandry system.
Personally if BG is that bad I'd rather recommend glyphosate & a spring crop instead of spending ever more on vast numbers of graminicides chasing an unsustainable husbandry system.
shakerator
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- LINCS
This product is a waste of time
Do CRD and WRAG literally have meetings on how to screw growers on old chemistry whilst ensuring any lingering resistance issues are fully stamped in at 15% dose rates.
Prob just enough to breed resistant wild oats to substituted ureas (this can't help the sister chemistry of sulfynlureas)
Do CRD and WRAG literally have meetings on how to screw growers on old chemistry whilst ensuring any lingering resistance issues are fully stamped in at 15% dose rates.
Prob just enough to breed resistant wild oats to substituted ureas (this can't help the sister chemistry of sulfynlureas)
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Keep the buggy going with the Avadex will be a safer bet probably
I wouldn't be wanting to exceed it just worried about the amount you get with your FFCT, PDM, IPU etc. On a similar note is there a product worth applying to WB post em? Bearing in mind it had FPU, FFCT PDM and DFF pre-em. I also don't want a lecture about how I shouldn't be winter cropping thanks, half the farm is being spring sown and this is a new piece of ground where I was unaware of quite how high the BG pressure was when I planned the rotation............
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The last bit of ipu we had to use up before the ban was mixed with axial and adigor at about half litre to the ha and made the axial work well. I think it was the last time I sore axial actually work with very good results.
I wouldn't be wanting to exceed it just worried about the amount you get with your FFCT, PDM, IPU etc. On a similar note is there a product worth applying to WB post em? Bearing in mind it had FPU, FFCT PDM and DFF pre-em. I also don't want a lecture about how I shouldn't be winter cropping thanks, half the farm is being spring sown and this is a new piece of ground where I was unaware of quite how high the BG pressure was when I planned the rotation............
No lecture I promise!
You have already used most of the options! If you want to use the whole lot, max rate flufenacet is 360g/ha. Other than Avadex & Axial pre 2 leaves on the BG there isn't anything left unless CTU is approved on barley.
johnwhutton
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- Sleaford, Lincolnshire
Tower label has been updated, the 28th Oct date has gone. Last application on winter crops is GS31
New label here:
http://www.adama.com/uk/en/Images/tower-label_tcm105-33338.pdf
New label here:
http://www.adama.com/uk/en/Images/tower-label_tcm105-33338.pdf
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- Spilsby Lincolnshire
Will not agree Axial work well if applied correctly against Ryegrass with the correct adjuvant!