So I’m buying a new tanker at last

[Keep_moving]

Hello,
I’ve whittled it down to four in my own head:

major
Hi spec
Conor
Newrock.

The 4 are coming in at roughly the same price give or take and I have them specced as closely as possible. 2.5k gallon or 2.6k gallon(major, hispec)

One thing niggling me is the way the cylinder is supported in the case of the above choices.

Major has a separate chassis supporting the barrell.
Hispec look to have an even bigger/stronger chassis underneath the cylinder bigger than major like there’s no space at all between the chassis and barrell its a big thick wedge of metal under the barrell

Newrock have no chassis at all then is it something to be worried about long term ?

Someone with a keener eye than me might be able to comment on the above observations which would you go for?

surely a chassis there vs no chassis is bound to last longer and take more abuse ?

thanks for reading.

 

[N.Yorks.]

Why don't you get one of the fully galvanised ones. I have a contractor friend who bought a Pichon 22 years ago and he's still using it - it has an integrated chassis so the tank forms part of the chassis.

Make sure you can fix a dribble bar/trailing shoe onto the rear too, rather than having to do a retrofit later. I think the days of splash plates may well be numbered....

 

[Cowabunga]

Not many contractors around here using those fancy foreign tankers, because they use thinner, higher tensile steel which lasts OK as far as rusting goes but tends to crack at stress points.
Most use Irish tankers with HiSpec, Conor and Major being particularly popular. Personally I have a pair of HiSpec 10,000 litre tankers that are getting on a bit now. The main issue I've had is the big plastic portholes blowing out, having probably become brittle from exposure to the sun. They are quite useless anyway, so when they blow we just weld a good thick piece of steel plate to blank the hole off, tidily. Best to do the lower ones before they blow, because they blow when the tanker is full and that can make a heck of a mess when 1500 gallons or more of slurry pours out of a 3 or 4" hole with no way of stopping it. I've never seen the utility in those sightglasses at all. The tanker is filled until full and emptied until empty...end of.

 

[Keep_moving]

Why don't you get one of the fully galvanised ones. I have a contractor friend who bought a Pichon 22 years ago and he's still using it - it has an integrated chassis so the tank forms part of the chassis.

Make sure you can fix a dribble bar/trailing shoe onto the rear too, rather than having to do a retrofit later. I think the days of splash plates may well be numbered....

Absolutely. I am getting this one galvanised

 

[marco]

We have a Conor 2500 here the last few years on the big tyres. Have a full length sight glass on the front. Very handy to make sure it's filling away.

 

[RAF]

Redrock

 

[daveydiesel1]

Newrock would be my choice

 

[Keep_moving]

Newrock would be my choice

With no chassis under the barrel would it bother you ? (Unless they have it on the inside of the cylinder but I doubt it )

 

[Keep_moving]

We have a Conor 2500 here the last few years on the big tyres. Have a full length sight glass on the front. Very handy to make sure it's filling away.

Was at the factory they look very well made some waiting list for them now

 

[Barleycorn]

Not many contractors around here using those fancy foreign tankers, because they use thinner, higher tensile steel which lasts OK as far as rusting goes but tends to crack at stress points.
Most use Irish tankers with HiSpec, Conor and Major being particularly popular. Personally I have a pair of HiSpec 10,000 litre tankers that are getting on a bit now. The main issue I've had is the big plastic portholes blowing out, having probably become brittle from exposure to the sun. They are quite useless anyway, so when they blow we just weld a good thick piece of steel plate to blank the hole off, tidily. Best to do the lower ones before they blow, because they blow when the tanker is full and that can make a heck of a mess when 1500 gallons or more of slurry pours out of a 3 or 4" hole with no way of stopping it. I've never seen the utility in those sightglasses at all. The tanker is filled until full and emptied until empty...end of.

To be anal it is illegal to weld a vacuum tanker unless you have the right certificates etc as it is deemed a pressure vessel. We rolled one and even our local professional welder wouldn't touch it.

 

[Wellytrack]

Redrock have had the traditional column up front arrangement going on for 30 + years, it’s fine.

Sight glasses are useful to see what your doing wrong in regards to slurry foaming up.

Joskin tankers and similar with their wide drawbar are horrible things.

 

[Bald Rick]

Just bought this Conor about 3 weeks ago ..

seems reasonably well put together for the money against one of the fancy continental ones.

Lead time was about 6 months on this one though

 

[Suckndiesel]

Not many contractors around here using those fancy foreign tankers, because they use thinner, higher tensile steel which lasts OK as far as rusting goes but tends to crack at stress points.
Most use Irish tankers with HiSpec, Conor and Major being particularly popular. Personally I have a pair of HiSpec 10,000 litre tankers that are getting on a bit now. The main issue I've had is the big plastic portholes blowing out, having probably become brittle from exposure to the sun. They are quite useless anyway, so when they blow we just weld a good thick piece of steel plate to blank the hole off, tidily. Best to do the lower ones before they blow, because they blow when the tanker is full and that can make a heck of a mess when 1500 gallons or more of slurry pours out of a 3 or 4" hole with no way of stopping it. I've never seen the utility in those sightglasses at all. The tanker is filled until full and emptied until empty...end of.

Jeez you’ve too much time on your hands welding the sight glasses up[emoji6] I was in a guys yard a few years ago and his tanker had a wooden fence post hammered into the blown sight glass hole

 

[Cowabunga]

To be anal it is illegal to weld a vacuum tanker unless you have the right certificates etc as it is deemed a pressure vessel. We rolled one and even our local professional welder wouldn't touch it.

It may well be illegal for a professional welder to be paid to do so on the structure of the tank, although it is more likely that they refused for insurance insurance liability reasons, but this is not on the structure of the tank, it is on the face of the rather hefty eyeglass ring. If you are that anal of course, you could scrap a perfectly good tanker because a piece of plastic had failed; a piece of plastic that was probably a hundredth of the strength of the proposed steel patch. Each to their own I suppose.

I hardly think I would be welding a dented tank, or even using it. That would be asking for trouble. Would weld patches on the outlet pipes and such if they started to leak through rust of course. As I did several times on previous older tankers.

 

[Cowabunga]

Jeez you’ve too much time on your hands welding the sight glasses up[emoji6] I was in a guys yard a few years ago and his tanker had a wooden fence post hammered into the blown sight glass hole

I'm too much of a coward to relish the prospect of a wooden missile zooming through the back window of the cab and into my chest. Like the best of vampires, I wouldn't stand much chance with a stake through my heart.

 

[twentyspence]

have you considered Sk?

 

[daijd]

I'm too much of a coward to relish the prospect of a wooden missile zooming through the back window of the cab and into my chest. Like the best of vampires, I wouldn't stand much chance with a stake through my heart.

Especially so close to Halloween!

I thought those porthole window were a recent option offered on tankers. Thinking of speccing them on next tanker so I have the ability to see how much sand/silt is inside the tanker before opening the door.

 

[Cmoran]

Have a 2600 major and 2500 Conor here both very well built did borrow a hispec with view to buying one before the Conor and it seemed to be always dancing around behind the tractor!!

 

[Cowabunga]

Especially so close to Halloween!

I thought those porthole window were a recent option offered on tankers. Thinking of speccing them on next tanker so I have the ability to see how much sand/silt is inside the tanker before opening the door.

Mine are about 4 to 6 inches across and you can’t see a thing inside the tanker. Only the rear top one is of any use whatsoever and that one isn’t essential either.

 

[Cowabunga]

Have a 2600 major and 2500 Conor here both very well built did borrow a hispec with view to buying one before the Conor and it seemed to be always dancing around behind the tractor!!

Maybe it had more air in the tyres than the Conor?