Spring beans into old pasture

[nick channer]

Drilled 20 acres fuego SB's today straight into sprayed off pasture
Worn down bean spoons
6km's hr

 

[SilliamWhale]

Good stuff

I'm doing mine into pasture on Wednesday. I've only got wizard beans left so going to drill twice at a lower seed rate. Also gonna p and k down spout as its low fertility.

The wheat after last years beans into pasture is the best I've ever seen. And I got a grazing out of it.

 

[nick channer]

Also had some p and k down spout
Gonna run the stubble rake over it tomorro late morning
Doesn't really need it but wanna try new rake out!!!

 

[Andrew K]

What sort of rake is it Nick?

 

[Mursal]

Rake at 45 degrees to the drilling?

 

[nick channer]

What sort of rake is it Nick?

There is only one rake
Claydon

 

[JNG]

How are these beans looking now @nick channer ?

 

[nick channer]

How are these beans looking now @nick channer ?

One field brilliant
Other was good till rooks/crows got on it 24/7
Will get some pics

 

[Adeptandy]

Will be interested in the pics, going to take a block out of HLS in a couple of years and will be looking at spring cropping the first year due to the late finish of the agreement.

 

[nick channer]

Drilled into pasture both on same day
300 k/ha fuego spring beans.

Rooks had good go at this soon as it poked through went up rows pullin shoots out!!
Spring wheat straight into pasture alao.
Photo taken 3 weeks ago looks crackin now!!

 

[debe]

Did you use much dursban? P word being mentioned again round here due to wireworm.

 

[nick channer]

Did you use much dursban? P word being mentioned again round here due to wireworm.

We did on the spring wheat only cos agri cocked up and sent our seed out with no austral+ on it so they donated Dursban!!!

 

[Adeptandy]

That's encouraging, thanks Nick, been getting scare stories off the agronomist about wireworm after ten years of grass.

 

[nick channer]

That's why we put beans in first!!
After that could be an issue
We got our first half decent crop this harvest by look it on some grass we ploughed 4 yrs ago.
We had to roll ours 3 times after drillin, twice with flat roll after grass to stop rooks Rooks etc gettin on it.
I think perhaps if u can give pasture a light discin in autumn to break the surface to let rooks sea gulls etc eat any slugs/wireworm then drill in spring.
Although I put some it down to the wet 2012 and wet winter last yr.
This is spring wheat in it's fourth yr being d drilled

 

[SilliamWhale]

Here are mine today. Spring down wizard on a field of low fertility and 70 years grass at least. I need to break even really and though there are some weak areas there are some strong areas too

 

[Adeptandy]

Nice view

 

[JNG]

Here are mine today. Spring down wizard on a field of low fertility and 70 years grass at least. I need to break even really and though there are some weak areas there are some strong areas too

Should be aiming a bit higher than breaking even don't you think Will? Beans look good enough to me. Except is there a deficiency there?

 

[Louis Mc]

Here are mine today. Spring down wizard on a field of low fertility and 70 years grass at least. I need to break even really and though there are some weak areas there are some strong areas too

Did you place any starter fert with them?

 

[SilliamWhale]

Should be aiming a bit higher than breaking even don't you think Will? Beans look good enough to me. Except is there a deficiency there?

Did you place any starter fert with them?

These fields are low in ph and soil test was low in P and K. I put some 5t/ha lime on in February and then drilled with 0/24/24 as a starter - can't remember how much now. About 6 weeks ago I then put some more pelleted lime and p and k on as a broadcast.

It is quite light coloured - I wonder if I should do a tissue test and see if its low in anything else. I can't expect the ph to change so quickly.

 

[Louis Mc]

These fields are low in ph and soil test was low in P and K. I put some 5t/ha lime on in February and then drilled with 0/24/24 as a starter - can't remember how much now. About 6 weeks ago I then put some more pelleted lime and p and k on as a broadcast.

It is quite light coloured - I wonder if I should do a tissue test and see if its low in anything else. I can't expect the ph to change so quickly.

What about some placed n with no till beans to make up for lack of mineralisation? We have 7 units placed on claydon beans as part of an np mix. Slightly better than where we switched it off but hard to know if it's the n or the p doing the business.