Spring OSR

[T Hectares]

I’ve had a couple of goes at SOSR in the last few years after failed WOSR

The second year was the best as we actually harvested it…

When I say it, I mean it was a 50/50 mix of fat hen and OSR that was cut and then cleaned and dried and still incurred deductions !

And now I have a great stand of flowering SOSR in some WOSR although after last nights -6 it’s looking a bit sick !!

A farm a couple of miles away cut theirs in November this year

It’s just a miserable crop, I was only tempted as I have distant memories of growing it 20 odd years ago when IACS favoured it and we had functioning insecticides and Treflan

Fallow is a far, far better option as at least you won’t have the volunteers to remind you of your folly next time you grow Winter Rape in those fields

 

[glasshouse]

I’ve had a couple of goes at SOSR in the last few years after failed WOSR

The second year was the best as we actually harvested it…

When I say it, I mean it was a 50/50 mix of fat hen and OSR that was cut and then cleaned and dried and still incurred deductions !

And now I have a great stand of flowering SOSR in some WOSR although after last nights -6 it’s looking a bit sick !!

A farm a couple of miles away cut theirs in November this year

It’s just a miserable crop, I was only tempted as I have distant memories of growing it 20 odd years ago when IACS favoured it and we had functioning insecticides and Treflan

Fallow is a far, far better option as at least you won’t have the volunteers to remind you of your folly next time you grow Winter Rape in those fields

I can see it doesnt work down south, but it does ok oopnorth

 

[4course]

I can see it doesnt work down south, but it does ok oopnorth

where does oopnorth start cos it doesnt work ere

 

[glasshouse]

where does oopnorth start cos it doesnt work ere

Edinburgh, And even that is not very north

 

[quattro]

Long time ago when subby was high on osr some people were nearly buying the ground off osr
Land prices were very cheap at the time

 

[glasshouse]

Long time ago when subby was high on osr some people were nearly buying the ground off osr
Land prices were very cheap at the time

Those were the days
Second class arable @ £500/ac

 

[David.]

Mid 1980s, plenty of okay Scottish farms for £600/ac.
Doesn't make any difference if you couldn't borrow the money..

 

[glasshouse]

Mid 1980s, plenty of okay Scottish farms for £600/ac.
Doesn't make any difference if you couldn't borrow the money..

Not mid 80,s
Arse didnt fall out of land till 87 88
84 -85 was peak

 

[David.]

Stand corrected, seems long ago.

 

[ollie989898]

Canola is a substantial crop here but does come with a multitude of things against it. Being gmo made canola a go to break crop. Before roundup and liberty tolerant canola it wasn’t much fun to grow. Weed control was poor at best and could only be grown on the cleanest of fields. Now it’s used to clean up some problem grass weeds on many western farms. It’s come a long way in the past twenty years in terms of yield but the main insect pests are still the same. This past year was by far the worse for flee beetles in western Canada. Many fields were reseeded some twice then abandoned due to such high numbers. Various seed treatments are available fir FB but it’s barely effective. Best is a fast emerging strong crop but it’s easier said than done. I’m in southern Manitoba and our soils grow very good canola but usually early July heat can blast flowers leaving sterile sites and no pods in places. Newer hybrids tend to cope with heat better than open pollinated varieties. In the past five years Bayer introduced varieties with a pod shatter gene bred into them. A major step forward for canola.
ironically roundup tolerant canola is second only to wild oats as the most prolific weed on grain farms. I grew it only once nearly 20 years ago and still have it popping up.

How problematic is the volunteer GMO canola in other crops? Do you have weed control options for it?

Your situation sounds like some kind if flea beetle apocalypse.

 

[Flatlander]

How problematic is the volunteer GMO canola in other crops? Do you have weed control options for it?

Your situation sounds like some kind if flea beetle apocalypse.

The gmo OSR problem is mainly if your growing roundup resistant canola and want to have pre seed burn down using round up. In cereals is no problem until you get a flush of late germination ones a month before harvest then pre harvest desiccation need something other than round up In the tank. Most in this area are on liberty canola which RU takes out enabling us to grow a clean crop of RU tolerant beans And maize. The past couple of years has been increasing bad for flee beetles in sons area. This past year was terrible for some but for me I’ve been plagued with grasshoppers and have sprayed most of my acres for the past four years. Numbers are are borderline economic in some fields but I’d rather wipe them out than let numbers escalate. With the amount of snow we now have and potential for a wetter spring numbers should fall.

 

[Gong Farmer]

It’s just a miserable crop, I was only tempted as I have distant memories of growing it 20 odd years ago when IACS favoured it and we had functioning insecticides and Treflan

This. Been very difficult to grow since Treflan went. Alternatives all seem to slow down establishment (as with the winter crop) and that's doubly damaging for spring rape.

 

[Flat 10]

Treflan was good in beans and cereals too as I recall