Static caravan ibc sewage tank?

[Cow_calver]

I am moving into a static caravan on the farm until as i am planning to build a house next year, do i need planning permission?

Also i have water and electric but no septic tank, im not really wanting to spend a lot as ill only be in here 10 months would digging a hole in the ground, putting an ibc in it and running a pipe from the toilet outlet to the ibc work?

Im aware the ibc could collapse from pressure underground, would a pallot round all 4 sides of it help?

Thanks

 

[unlacedgecko]

I am moving into a static caravan on the farm until as i am planning to build a house next year, do i need planning permission?

Also i have water and electric but no septic tank, im not really wanting to spend a lot as ill only be in here 10 months would digging a hole in the ground, putting an ibc in it and running a pipe from the toilet outlet to the ibc work?

Im aware the ibc could collapse from pressure underground, would a pallot round all 4 sides of it help?

Thanks

I had one for 3+ years. Best leave the roof uncovered. And get a conversion kit from these guys.

Septic Tank DIY Kit

If you already have your own IBC tank then you could save money by building your own Cube Septic Tank with our DIY kit. It contains all the fittings you need, and comes with full instructions on...

www.septic-tanks-emptied.co.uk

 

[ARW]

Just sit right on top of the ibc? Save plumbing it in

 

[Cow_calver]

I had one for 3+ years. Best leave the roof uncovered. And get a conversion kit from these guys.

Septic Tank DIY Kit

If you already have your own IBC tank then you could save money by building your own Cube Septic Tank with our DIY kit. It contains all the fittings you need, and comes with full instructions on...

www.septic-tanks-emptied.co.uk

How do u mean best leave the roof uncovered? The issue is you need planning for a septic tank in scotland i believe? Where as using it as a storage tank and emptying more regular might get round this?

 

[Cow_calver]

Just sit right on top of the ibc? Save plumbing it in

Doesnt a tank have to be at least 20ft from where ur living? Itll emit methane/ smell etc?

 

[Grass And Grain]

Think you can site static caravans for seasonal agricultural workers. It's permitted development, but I can't remember if you need to notify local authority for ag determination. Don't think you do, but not sure.

I guess you don't really fit the mould of "seasonal agricultural worker", but you might get away with it.

 

[Cow_calver]

Think you can site static caravans for seasonal agricultural workers. It's permitted development, but I can't remember if you need to notify local authority for ag determination. Don't think you do, but not sure.

I guess you don't really fit the mould of "seasonal agricultural worker", but you might get away with it.

Ive also heard u can have a temporary one if your building a house but im unsure of the facts on this

 

[Grass And Grain]

Just looked it up, you don't need to notify the local authority.

I'd guess by "seasonal" they mean for the strawberry harvest season, or lettuce growing season, or lambing season.

On the other hand I suppose a "season" is a period of time. If you block calve for example, then you could argue you are doing the milking season. I'm not sure how they determine this. There's silage season, cultivating season, harvest season, drilling season, machinery maintenance season, slurry spreading season, irrigation season, winter feeding season. Grazing season. The list goes on.

 

[Grass And Grain]

In fact, as per your username, if asked you could be there for the calving season. Then the next calving season...

 

[Cow_calver]

Oh well ill just need to say its for the autumn calving and feeding season if anyone asks im not sure if i need planning for a septic tank then or not, or whether to bury a holding tank

 

[puppet]

I am moving into a static caravan on the farm until as i am planning to build a house next year, do i need planning permission?

Also i have water and electric but no septic tank, im not really wanting to spend a lot as ill only be in here 10 months would digging a hole in the ground, putting an ibc in it and running a pipe from the toilet outlet to the ibc work?

Im aware the ibc could collapse from pressure underground, would a pallot round all 4 sides of it help?

Thanks

I think you would usually do it as part of your planning application. You would need an outlet from the tank to a soakaway which may not look great when officers visit

 

[Cow_calver]

I think you would usually do it as part of your planning application. You would need an outlet from the tank to a soakaway which may not look great when officers visit

Is a soakaway essential though? I thought it was less environmental impact just to have it go into a tank with no outlet

 

[unlacedgecko]

Is a soakaway essential though? I thought it was less environmental impact just to have it go into a tank with no outlet

There is. But you'll be emptying it twice a month. IBC is only 1,000litres.
A full flush of a toilet is 11litres. Average shower is 40litres. Add in dish washing and a washing machine for clothes, you'd be over 1,000litres in double quick time.

 

[Nearly]

Ran a static on a 200 litre drum for 3 years.
Drilled a lot of 40mm holes half way up and it never overflowed.

 

[farmerm]

Ran a static on a 200 litre drum for 3 years.
Drilled a lot of 40mm holes half way up and it never overflowed.

I know of one which was just a 200 litre hole with boards on top…. It was a temporary solution that never got upgraded, despite 6months becoming 2 years. even the soil pipe was all above ground

 

[TripleSix]

I've been involved with three IBC septic tanks now, they work just fine, have never made a soak away for them, but plumbed the outlet into a land drain, by then time it's made it half a mile across a field it'll be nicely diluted.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Wow
Local Councils would crucify you for doing that here . . .

 

[topground]

Presumably the house you build will need a septic tank? Why not install that facility now and plumb the caravan into it.

 

[tw15]

If the water/ waste is stored in a sealed container i cant see how it can be a problem as you are not realising it to the ground as long as you get it disposed of properly . It is when it can get in the ground thats when the EA etc rules apply .

 

[Jonp]

I live in a caravan, no toilet, just need to know where all the local toilets are; local garage, supermarkets etc. ok if you live near town.(my go to place is 5mins away, or quicker) .... don't eat stuff that may give me the squits.