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[Bury the Trash]

Hay.
I know its been talked about in threads before but will using an additive (sort of thinking about the likes of Biotal type) .
I use a belt baler and it makes nice tight bales with spinning the centre up and almost seems like ringing moisture out even when it feels very fit in the sun ..so in that instance would using the Biotal and a simple sprayer set up either on the baler or rake ..maybe sprayed on bit before baling even ??
hes a bit the same with straw as well ….unless its as dry as the driest thing you've ever seen

They will say wrap but I don't have a wrapper and we like to do all work ourselves which suits hay anyway I would rather make a clamp than that as I don't want listeria in my sheep .

 

[Bald Rick]

Sprinkle salt across the layers in the barn as you stack them and ideally blow air in. Makes lovely hay that smells like tobacco.
Back in 1982 my old boss in Buckingham insisted on making green bales and blowing. Barn looked like it was on fire with the steam coming out but dang, the stock went bananas for it and nary a wasted bale

 

[Bury the Trash]

Sprinkle salt across the layers in the barn as you stack them and ideally blow air in. Makes lovely hay that smells like tobacco.
Back in 1982 my old boss in Buckingham insisted on making green bales and blowing. Barn looked like it was on fire with the steam coming out but dang, the stock went bananas for it and nary a wasted bale

but that was small bales? this is belt made rounds and thats just the usual big bale problem air doesn't get near them inside. It would be be useful if they were polo shaped could blow through the centre then

they just need a bit of help even when it is fit to bale.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Hay.
I know its been talked about in threads before but will using an additive (sort of thinking about the likes of Biotal type) .
I use a belt baler and it makes nice tight bales with spinning the centre up and almost seems like ringing moisture out even when it feels very fit in the sun ..so in that instance would using the Biotal and a simple sprayer set up either on the baler or rake ..maybe sprayed on bit before baling even ??
hes a bit the same with straw as well ….unless its as dry as the driest thing you've ever seen

They will say wrap but I don't have a wrapper and we like to do all work ourselves which suits hay anyway I would rather make a clamp than that as I don't want listeria in my sheep .

Not arguing the rights and wrongs of any system but why do you see silage bales a Listeria risk more than clamp?

Now if there was an additive that meant you could make haylage without wrap I'd be interested.

 

[Al R]

There was a system a few years ago where you had a 3 spike bale spike which had holes in so when you went into the bale you could squirt additive into the centre of the bale, I think it was mainly aimed at hay/haylage which wasn’t quite fit.

Personally I would use Ecosyl 100..

 

[Bury the Trash]

Not arguing the rights and wrongs of any system but why do you see silage bales a Listeria risk more than clamp?

Now if there was an additive that meant you could make haylage without wrap I'd be interested.

bale environment suits listeria multiplication better higher PH etc than clamp. ?

more chance of multiple holes than clamp as well and ive not got anything atm to handle the most modern bale weights nice dampish chopped bale would be ok I guess but so heavy.
have to be all contractor job.

Trouble is grass is gone a bit over silage now, or will be when we get chance to cut.

 

[Bury the Trash]

There was a system a few years ago where you had a 3 spike bale spike which had holes in so when you went into the bale you could squirt additive into the centre of the bale, I think it was mainly aimed at hay/haylage which wasn’t quite fit.

Personally I would use Ecosyl 100..

used eco bale on lucerene haylage once but it was a bit mature and the stalks punctured here and there so not a fair trial really, when we did that someone sprayed it on in front of the baler with the bike sprayer.

 

[Bald Rick]

but that was small bales? this is belt made rounds and thats just the usual big bale problem air doesn't get near them inside. It would be be useful if they were polo shaped could blow through the centre then

they just need a bit of help even when it is fit to bale.

Yeah, small bales. Made 18,000 all green and all hand balled by two of us with the help of an elevator. Found muscles I never knew existed and makes you wonder why people bother with a gym.

Consider an Ultra Low Volume Applicator squirting in to the pick up chamber.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

bale environment suits listeria multiplication better higher PH etc than clamp. ?

more chance of multiple holes than clamp as well and ive not got anything atm to handle the most modern bale weights nice dampish chopped bale would be ok I guess but so heavy.
have to be all contractor job.

Trouble is grass is gone a bit over silage now, or will be when we get chance to cut.

Don't feed many bales to sheep now but but never used to get much problem. Certainly no worse than places I'd worked with clamp.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Don't feed many bales to sheep now but but never used to get much problem. Certainly no worse than places I'd worked with clamp.

what do you feed them now ?

 

[Poorbuthappy]

what do you feed them now ?

Grass.
Think I fed 1.5 bales silage to sheep last winter. 600 ewes and 200 ewe lambs.
Spend a fair bit of time running the roads to dairy keep through 1st half the winter though.