Straight discs on Horsch

[JDJ]

Looks factory built.

Is there an accumulator (gas filled sphere) in the hydraulic line?

Thanks.

No not yet, but have thought of it. But need to figure out if it can work together with the "control valve" I added in the system. It makes sure that the pistons move in and out equally and that one of them don't run up on top if hitting a hard spot.

Took delivery of some new 2" points from @SorenIlsoe yesterday so now I am ready to drill some low disturbance cower crops if it ever stops raining

 

[JD6920s]

What do those disc units cost if you don't mind me asking please?

 

[JD6920s]

What do those disc units cost if you don't mind me asking please?

Sorry, just read your earlier post!!

 

[rob1978]

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[Hartwig]

Took delivery of some new 2" points from @SorenIlsoe yesterday so now I am ready to drill some low disturbance cower crops if it ever stops raining

Jacob, you might have done some drilling now - how is it going with the discs ??
How different/better is it ??

 

[JDJ]

Jacob, you might have done some drilling now - how is it going with the discs ??
How different/better is it ??

Hello Hartwig, yes have been drilling 20 ha cover crops here and 35 ha contracting for an other farmer both after winter barley. It's working really well, no straw is wrapping around the tines and no dragging straw in piles at all.

Cover crops with 4"

On some wery uneven and loose land (not mine) looks very high distance compared to my own land.

 

[JDJ]

Cover crops af winter barley

 

[Rainmaker]

Looks good.. How do you work your costings when drilling a cover crop as the tractor and drill can't last for ever. Is the benefit of the cover and the cost of sowing it put against the next crop as a cost?

 

[Lukehaynes]

Impressive stuff, will you be drilling any winter cereals with this machine?

 

[JDJ]

Impressive stuff, will you be drilling any winter cereals with this machine?

Thanks! ☺

Yes all my cereals will be drilled with the sprinter. The plan was to dd wheat after osr and beans and min till before winter barley and rye, but the extreme weather conditions we had around here in the weekend may force us to do some tillage the dry the soil enough to drill in right time.
We had 60-90 mm of rain in less than 12 hours, several roads in the area are flushed away by water and unharvested crops is under water and and newly drilled osr fields (ploughed) is totally destroyed.

 

[Lukehaynes]

Hell, that's a lot of rain, we haven't had that volume in such short time here but have had a lot of rain delaying combining this month.

The cover crops you drilled in the picture there, I assume you will drill straight into them in the spring?

I shall be following progress with this machine, could be an option for modifying our own sprinter.

 

[Hartwig]

It was a difficult autumn here with only short windows for drilling on not too dry soil, followed always by constant rain for 10-14 days with 70-90 mm each. Result is a lot of patches in the fields with rotted seed because the constant rain was not drained away in the underground quick enough, means lack of micro-drainage from the loose soil around/above the seed into firm soil below.
That happened no matter if it was drilled with the Moore or the Horsch with GENs and with barley as well as with wheat. Redrilled those patches always in the next dry time, but were drowned again by the following rain then, even now we have constant rain since 10 days with no forecast for any dry day in the next 10 days.

My thoughts are, if a disc in front of the seedboots, set at a proper depth, would create a bit of a drainage channel to leave the seed drier in these conditions ??

Bearing in mind that rotting seed will mostly happen when it is already rather wet at drilling, a disc could just smear and leave a sealed slot as well ?!
Would a wavy disc or a turbo-till disc make that better, leaving maybe some micro-cracks in the soil for better water infiltration ??

 

[Dockers]

Blimey, with 700mm in 10 days, you do not need to worry about which drill or coulter.
Just get a submarine !

 

[Hartwig]

Oh no, sorry for expressing it wrong ! I meant 70-90 mm each period or time window, not every day !! We had some drilling days in early september and a week in sept./oct., both drilling times were followed by 70-90 mm rain over a period of 10-14 days. So from 10th september to 20th october we had approx. 160-180 mm.

 

[Jim Bullock]

Hartwig
As you have probably read from my previous postings..."The difference between success and failure with direct-drilling is down to the soils ability to absorb and disperse excess soil moisture" ie: good drainage. After many years of trying to adapt our soils we have decided the only way forward is some form of mechanical drainage when conditions are not ideal. We have developed a minimal disturbance soil loosener which will allow for water infiltration without disturbing the soil profile.(Very similar to the old Paraplow) So the soil surface looks the same after its passage yet the infiltration has been increased to allow for successful one pass seeding afterwards. Its going to be launched at the LAMMA show in January.

 

[Alistair Nelson]

How about an exclusive launch on here first !!!

 

[Hartwig]

Jim,
that sounds interesting, looking forward to see what you mean.

Just got responses from farmers not far away from me, one with a Claydon and the other with a Mzuri and both have also big problems with drowned seed this autumn, despite the loosening legs are meant for draining off the moisture !

 

[Andrew K]

When its wet a front tine is worth sweet fa, cracking the ground needs to be done in the dry.