T.b vaccine

[roscoe erf]

UK scientists develop a vaccine for cows against bovine tuberculosis

Researchers from the University of Surrey have created a strain of the BCG vaccine that they say prevents the spread of TB and is compatible with a compulsory skin test used on cattle.

www.dailymail.co.uk

any thoughts

 

[vantage]

Whoopee do! F all mention of all the cows that are slaughtered. F !ng hypocrites.
Anyway it’ll probably be another 10 years to be “validated”.
Can you tell we’ve got a Tb test read tomorrow under WAG’s new enhanced controls?

 

[gone up the hill]

Will not be viable until the UK cattle herd is TB clear.

Would mean a change in EU and other country's import rules for sure if it was used or the UK export trade could be stopped in its tracks!

Has this vaccine actually be shown to work in field trials or just the labs??

 

[gone up the hill]

@matthew

 

[former farmer]

This was reported on this morning on Farming Today.

There a lengthy description of work producing this trial vaccine in hamsters as far as I remember.

Following this Charlotte Smith asks will this vaccine halt the badger cull?? WTF!! This was her first question not any mention of the numbers of cattle slaughtered, the problems Btb has caused over the past twenty to thirty years.

Sadly it was a clear demonstration of the agenda many 'journalists' hold, and is promoted on the BBC .

 

[Exfarmer]

The daily wail what do they know about the anything yet alone the truth

 

[matthew]

In the words of colleagues who used to license these drugs, the size of the challenge to our cattle from infectious badgers, NO vaccine would work. And to understand how they (vaccines) work, they do not prevent the disease. In some cases they may reduce pulmonary lesions, thus reducing the load within a population over a long time. But the candidate still has TB, just maybe one route of transmission is reduced.

As @gone up the hill says, wave good bye to exports. That’s if the appalling level of TB incidence which successive governments’ one sided policy has allowed to mushroom in this country, doesn’t block them first.

We discussed it here:

BCG vaccination - cattle

And now to cattle BCG vaccines: heavily promoted by guitarist, pop idol and astrophysicist Dr. Brian May as 'only months away' with no obv...

bovinetb.blogspot.com

 

[gone up the hill]

This was reported on this morning on Farming Today.

There a lengthy description of work producing this trial vaccine in hamsters as far as I remember.

Following this Charlotte Smith asks will this vaccine halt the badger cull?? WTF!! This was her first question not any mention of the numbers of cattle slaughtered, the problems Btb has caused over the past twenty to thirty years.

Sadly it was a clear demonstration of the agenda many 'journalists' hold, and is promoted on the BBC .

Not worth the paper its written on then if its only been used in trials on hamsters in a lab!

Untill its been used in field trails and shown to work on cattle and the skin test is still as accurate as it currently is then its certainly NOT the answer!

Also they go on about stopping the badger cull because of this so called vaccine, well what about the poor hamsters that they have been injecting left right and centre in these trials?? is their welfare any less important than badgers??

 

[gone up the hill]

In the words of colleagues who used to license these drugs, the size of the challenge to our cattle from infectious badgers, NO vaccine would work. And to understand how they (vaccines) work, they do not prevent the disease. In some cases they may reduce pulmonary lesions, thus reducing the load within a population over a long time. But the candidate still has TB, just maybe one route of transmission is reduced.

As @gone up the hill says, wave good bye to exports. That’s if the appalling level of TB incidence which successive governments’ one sided policy has allowed to mushroom in this country, doesn’t block them first.

We discussed it here:

BCG vaccination - cattle

And now to cattle BCG vaccines: heavily promoted by guitarist, pop idol and astrophysicist Dr. Brian May as 'only months away' with no obv...

bovinetb.blogspot.com

As long as something like 50% ( not sure of the actual figure ) of cattle herds in the UK are on 2+ years testing the UK will keep its TB disease free status as far as exports go!...

Thus why they cannot put the entire UK cattle herd on yearly testing!

 

[matthew]

As long as something like 50% ( not sure of the actual figure ) of cattle herds in the UK are on 2+ years testing the UK will keep its TB disease free status as far as exports go!...

Thus why they cannot put the entire UK cattle herd on yearly testing!

I wouldn't bank on that.

From 21st April 2021, new EU rules come in, bundling all old Animal Health stuff into one folder. I'm not saying that they will ban our meat exports, or cattle. But the new rules give them that option. And we have handed them the opportunity on a silver plate.

Brexit, UK exports and zoonotic Tuberculosis

One of the reasons given for leaving the clutches of the European Union was red tape. Happily, a bonfire of regulations will occur shortly. ...

bovinetb.blogspot.com

 

[jimred]

UK scientists develop a vaccine for cows against bovine tuberculosis

Researchers from the University of Surrey have created a strain of the BCG vaccine that they say prevents the spread of TB and is compatible with a compulsory skin test used on cattle.

www.dailymail.co.uk

any thoughts

Most of the 'facts' quoted in the article sound like they've come from an animal rights group press release.

 

[PostHarvest]

Surely its a complete waste of time and effort to vaccinate cattle when they are surrounded by a population of infected wildlife (and other non-tested farm stock) that will just re-infect? How can any disease control programme be expected to work when the vectors that transmit the disease are ignored? I'm not a biologist or an epidemiologist, but it doesn't make any sense to me. And the press release re-states the old chestnut that "the primary source of infection is cattle to cattle". Complete twaddle IMHO.