The reason Teb has not gone already is because there was not an effective alternative. I’m not sure that that situation has changed.
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Feldspar
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What was the reason they want to remove it?
Same as epoxi. It has been classified as an endocrine disruptor.
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Anyone know, is it thought there's a risk to the operator or consumer, or wildlife/insects or combination of those?
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Depends on how you define risk. My father in law tell of a time a patient heard carrots were good for him, so ate so many they made him poorly.
Goodolddays
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Urm yes, that's why the independent government health and safety executive has withdrawn its authorisation. They don't withdraw authorisations for kicks and giggles.
Was authorisation withdrawn or did license expire?
Risk no longer comes into it, we (and the EU) moved to a hazard based system. If it is defined as an endocrine disrupter it goes regardless as to whether any measures could be put in place to reduce the risks of it actually happening.
Flatland guy
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So if teb is going, is it better to use as much now to protect the new actives/products from developing resistance or not?
If teb was delayed revoking registration due to no alternative, what is the new product that is as effective? Or is it in the pipeline about to be released before final expiry of teb?
If teb was delayed revoking registration due to no alternative, what is the new product that is as effective? Or is it in the pipeline about to be released before final expiry of teb?
ollie989898
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There are a shed load of commonly-used chemical substances that are recognised as endocrine disruptors or probable endocrine disruptors. Make a note of how they are not banned and will not be in the foreseeable future as they are probably deemed too useful or essential to other industry.
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Or profitable.
ollie989898
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I do wonder if one day the agrochemical/fertiliser big names just give up and cease marketing into Europe as it become pointless for them? If you aren't getting many years out of an active due to resistance or regulation then there are no end of other markets out there for them to sell into?
alomy75
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Completely off topic but I agree with your point with the example of vaderstad apparently are going to stop making the rexius press as it was only this country that bought them
But none of them could be registered as plant protection products because the bar has been set so high in Europe.
ollie989898
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Nom but these chemicals are in a multitude of other uses, but I bet none of them are banned any time soon.
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Are strong varieties like Extase and Theodore good enough to get away with one fungicide at T1/2 or are they still reliant on a cheap yellow rust fungicide?
alomy75
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In a couple of years they won’t have a choice…
ollie989898
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Down here one fudges with rust at their peril. I never considered any variety resistant enough to just forget about it. Warm muggy weather, thick dense crops, you'll see outbreaks in the minute when it warms up.