T1 winter wheat
- Thread starter Woody j
- Start date
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
It's dry here and Looks like it's going to be for a good while yet.
My wheats are clean from top to bottom, except for a bit of mildew on late drilled stuff after beet.
In the good old days 0.5-0.75lts epoxi and a litre of CTL would have been more than sufficient. I'm wondering weather to go cheap and cheerful to give some protection and then re assess if and when we get rain. I don't like firefighting but at the minute it's hard to justify big spends on T1.
Some of the more forwards wheats had 0.4 generic amistar at T0 and most had nothing, I'm wondering weather to go with a either teb or prothio plus folpet. I can always do a T1.5 to bolster protection until T2 if circumstances change.
My wheats are clean from top to bottom, except for a bit of mildew on late drilled stuff after beet.
In the good old days 0.5-0.75lts epoxi and a litre of CTL would have been more than sufficient. I'm wondering weather to go cheap and cheerful to give some protection and then re assess if and when we get rain. I don't like firefighting but at the minute it's hard to justify big spends on T1.
Some of the more forwards wheats had 0.4 generic amistar at T0 and most had nothing, I'm wondering weather to go with a either teb or prothio plus folpet. I can always do a T1.5 to bolster protection until T2 if circumstances change.
Steevo
Member
- Location
- Gloucestershire
Is it a year for skimping tho??
Fungis haven't really shot up in price like fert has so probably a year to stay robust and reap the rewards?
These are my thoughts. All my other costs are fixed, and output prices are decent so worth preserving what I have rather than risk it.
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
Exactly, robust rust control is cheap.
A good dose of azole at T1 and t1.5 is still going to be half the price of a sdhi at T1.Is it a year for skimping tho??
Fungis haven't really shot up in price like fert has so probably a year to stay robust and reap the rewards?
Do we always have to spend big to "reap the rewards”??
- Location
- Lincolnshire
No. Even last year, when it was bone dry, those who cut back on pgr and fungicide regretted it.Is it a year for skimping tho??
Fungis haven't really shot up in price like fert has so probably a year to stay robust and reap the rewards?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Ah the good old days of a litre of bravo and a litre of mantra at T1 and T2 and nothing else.
- Location
- Berkshire
Mine will go from midweek, one piece of Firefly is ready but the winds not forecast to drop until Tuesday
I know from my own experiences I was probably asking too much from Revystar @ T2 last year, a combination of no T0 then 0.8 of Aviator @T1 because it was dry led to a wet May and stretched T2 timings which would have received 2 ltrs of CTL Upto that point in previous seasons left Revystar with too much to do
No T0 this year and going Revystar T1 and Univoq T2
I know from my own experiences I was probably asking too much from Revystar @ T2 last year, a combination of no T0 then 0.8 of Aviator @T1 because it was dry led to a wet May and stretched T2 timings which would have received 2 ltrs of CTL Upto that point in previous seasons left Revystar with too much to do
No T0 this year and going Revystar T1 and Univoq T2
SilliamWhale
Member
Similar to me. Litre of revstar or more?
- Location
- Berkshire
A litre, then I have 1.25 of Univoq in store
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Me too.
- Location
- Berkshire
@robbie This is the price of controlling Septoria away from your rust orientated program in the East
It’s about £20/ha more overall than when we had CTL and last years experiences show how exposed we are without it, 10t/ha potential @ £300/t ( who knows ) and N bought at 80p/kg means I’m wary of skimping on fung
It’s about £20/ha more overall than when we had CTL and last years experiences show how exposed we are without it, 10t/ha potential @ £300/t ( who knows ) and N bought at 80p/kg means I’m wary of skimping on fung
How much is Univoq a litre?
- Location
- Darlington
And here lies the dilemma: at £250.00+ there is no point in skimping on fungicides, but in the same breath there is no point spending money unnecessarily.
Spending money is no guarantee off success , spending none guarantees failure
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Ascra due to go on now, but won't be till Weds at least.
Tempted with just a straight prothio route as was done last year with a similar dry spell. Got away with even as weather turned heading towards T2
With fert and grain price where they are, felt it prudent for a stronger T1 this time round.
Fung price reasonable compared to everything else shooting up
Tempted with just a straight prothio route as was done last year with a similar dry spell. Got away with even as weather turned heading towards T2
With fert and grain price where they are, felt it prudent for a stronger T1 this time round.
Fung price reasonable compared to everything else shooting up
- Location
- Darlington
Oh don't worry, my brother in law is my agronomist he won't let me get away with not spending money
- Location
- Dorset/Wilts
Ooooo conflict of interestsOh don't worry, my brother in law is my agronomist he won't let me get away with not spending money
Anyone know the value of a T1 in yield% increase vs Untreated in a dry spring?
no rain in previous 5 weeks and diddly squat forecast until nearly T2 (20th May?)
is it really worth applying anything?
anyone ever not done it, just T2 and T3
no rain in previous 5 weeks and diddly squat forecast until nearly T2 (20th May?)
is it really worth applying anything?
anyone ever not done it, just T2 and T3