T2 diabetes tips and tricks

[DaveGrohl]

The below graph tells you everything you need to know about why carbs are the enemy and animal foods aren’t. The great thing about cutting down on carbs and eating more fat is that hunger is history. I’m not T2 or pre in any way but I’ve been eating this way for 3 years now and am never hungry.

 

[Two Tone]

I was just looking for a Stan Ekberg video on Youtube to suggest viewing as it happens. He has an "odd" style which I really like when it comes to explaining things for those new to these subjects. He allows time for the viewer to take in what he’s saying. This is the one about explaining T2 diabetes:

Dr Stan Ekberg - Your doctor is wrong about insulin resistance

For some reason, my ipad won’t let me post Youtube videos directly, hence you’ll have to type it in yourself @sidjon

As you say @Two Tone , T2 diabetes can be reversed and is being reversed more and more around the world now that some doctors have investigated for themselves and not accepted what they were told in med school many years ago. Dr Kraft was fixing T2 in 1972 FFS with low carb diets. Just shows how fekked up health messages have become.

My Grandad died aged 96, his brain still as sharp as a new pin.
The poor bugger gave up smoking aged 94 because somebody told him it was bad for him and he lived 2 more (miserable) years, but totally lucid. Statins hadn’t been invented before he died. But he did take an aspirin every day.

My Dad died at (only just) 80 having taken more pills each day than there are in a tube of smarties, including statins since his late 50’s.
His entire last year he was very confused and very miserable.
His passing was in fact a blessing!

Neither were diabetic but both had suffered heart problems. Both smoked heavily.
Both had quite stressful lives. Particularly my father.

I am now refusing statins.
And I no longer smoke! (Gave up a while back).
I feel much better for having stopped both.

But it took 2 weeks before the statin side effects kicked in when I started them and another 2 weeks for them to disappear when I stopped taking them.

There seems to be good evidence that Statins increase Diabetes problems.
So, I’m not going to have another Hb1Ac test for for at least another 3 months.

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

I was just looking for a Stan Ekberg video on Youtube to suggest viewing as it happens. He has an "odd" style which I really like when it comes to explaining things for those new to these subjects. He allows time for the viewer to take in what he’s saying. This is the one about explaining T2 diabetes:

Dr Stan Ekberg - Your doctor is wrong about insulin resistance

For some reason, my ipad won’t let me post Youtube videos directly, hence you’ll have to type it in yourself @sidjon

As you say @Two Tone , T2 diabetes can be reversed and is being reversed more and more around the world now that some doctors have investigated for themselves and not accepted what they were told in med school many years ago. Dr Kraft was fixing T2 in 1972 FFS with low carb diets. Just shows how fekked up health messages have become.


Edit; saying LDL is "bad" is actually wrong, that is becoming clear these days. LDL just is. It‘s when LDL becomes damaged that the problems start. Statins don’t actually do anything to fix the damaged LDL they just mask the problem by reducing levels of undamaged LDL particles which is no help whatsover, which is why statins don‘t actually improve anything. They only help in the case of men of a certain age (who have already had a heart-attack) because of their anti-inflammatory effects. But the whole statin conversation has little to do with T2 diabetes, other than the fact that too much blood sugar causes damage to LDL particles which is incidental when it comes to T2.

This one?

His channel has a whole heap of interesting videos.

 

[DaveGrohl]

This one?

His channel has a whole heap of interesting videos.

Yup. Once you start looking around you’ll be amazed at how many people have realised health messages have become warped by Bigmoney. Just look in the comments of any of these videos and you’ll see.

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

My Grandad died aged 96, his brain still as sharp as a new pin.
The poor bugger gave up smoking aged 94 because somebody told him it was bad for him and he lived 2 more (miserable) years, but totally lucid. Statins hadn’t been invented before he died. But he did take an aspirin every day.

My Dad died at (only just) 80 having taken more pills each day than there are in a tube of smarties, including statins since his late 50’s.
His entire last year he was very confused and very miserable.
His passing was in fact a blessing!

Neither were diabetic but both had suffered heart problems. Both smoked heavily.
Both had quite stressful lives. Particularly my father.

I am now refusing statins.
And I no longer smoke!
I feel much better for having stopped both.

But it took 2 weeks before the statin side effects kicked in when I started them and another 2 weeks for them to disappear when I stopped taking them.

There seems to be good evidence that Statins increase Diabetes problems.
So, I’m not going to have another Hb1Ac test for for at least another 3 months.

This is really interesting - my dad went on statins because of high blood pressure and both his parents died of strokes in their early 70s. He started them in his 60s and was diagnosed as T2 diabetic in his 70s despite being 6'4 and 12st. He's since had a pacemaker and a stent so I'm not sure the statins were that useful.

I think I should get my act together, do some research...

 

[DaveGrohl]

My Grandad died aged 96, his brain still as sharp as a new pin.
The poor bugger gave up smoking aged 94 because somebody told him it was bad for him and he lived 2 more (miserable) years, but totally lucid. Statins hadn’t been invented before he died. But he did take an aspirin every day.

My Dad died at (only just) 80 having taken more pills each day than there are in a tube of smarties, including statins since his late 50’s.
His entire last year he was very confused and very miserable.
His passing was in fact a blessing!

Neither were diabetic but both had suffered heart problems. Both smoked heavily.
Both had quite stressful lives. Particularly my father.

I am now refusing statins.
And I no longer smoke!
I feel much better for having stopped both.

But it took 2 weeks before the statin side effects kicked in when I started them and another 2 weeks for them to disappear when I stopped taking them.

There seems to be good evidence that Statins increase Diabetes problems.
So, I’m not going to have another Hb1Ac test for for at least another 3 months.

You’re absolutely correct that statins increase diabetes problems, it’s not the only negative effect they have on overall health. They actually reduce production of CoQ10 which is vital for proper heart function, and then they get prescribed as a heart benefit FFS.

 

[Chopsy Varmint]

You’re absolutely correct that statins increase diabetes problems, it’s not the only negative effect they have on overall health. They actually reduce production of CoQ10 which is vital for proper heart function, and then they get prescribed as a heart benefit FFS.

We need an 'informative' button.

 

[DaveGrohl]

This is really interesting - my dad went on statins because of high blood pressure and both his parents died of strokes in their early 70s. He started them in his 60s and was diagnosed as T2 diabetic in his 70s despite being 6'4 and 12st. He's since had a pacemaker and a stent so I'm not sure the statins were that useful.

I think I should get my act together, do some research...

High blood pressure is a huge health problem, there is absolutely no argument about that at all. Statins would only help through their anti-inflammatory effects. Far far better is to eat a better diet to reduce the chronic inflammation that a poor diet is causing in the first place. That will be beneficial in all respects. Your Dad’s story has been repeated in massive numbers in the developed world, and increasingly so sadly.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Just as a general comment, insulin resistance is widely regarded now as the precursor to pretty much all of the metabolic disease we’re being overrun by these days. These include the usual ones like heart disease, T2 diabetes, stroke, hypertension, cancer, obesity, etc. Even Alzheimer's and dementia are being talked about as type 3 diabetes these days. A keto diet actually improves cognitive function in dementia patients.

Don‘t take my word for any of this btw, start looking for yourself and you’ll find.

 

[Two Tone]

It’s all interesting stuff guys……………
however……….
Sometimes, what you don’t know won’t hurt you!

…………….Either that, or I’m completely fooked!

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Yup. Once you start looking around you’ll be amazed at how many people have realised health messages have become warped by Bigmoney. Just look in the comments of any of these videos and you’ll see.

I am trying to remember what I heard about statins, taking them extends life expectancy by less than a week, but they do seem to increase the profitability of big pharma by far more than that! Another point, this is why food manufacturers loved (and employed) Ancel Keys, as his message opened the door to ultra processed food and big pharma. UPF makers love the idea they can put "low fat" on their packets to show how healthy they are (or green on a traffic light system) to encourage the less knowledgeable to live (or die from) the more profitable food stuffs. I wonder how much lobbying there is behind the Conservative message "we don't want to be a Nanny State, telling everyone what they should eat, or putting a sugar tax on food"!!! Of course, rather than a sugar tax on unhealthy food, we are having a general tax on everybody to pay for increased NHS spending.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

High blood pressure is a huge health problem, there is absolutely no argument about that at all. Statins would only help through their anti-inflammatory effects. Far far better is to eat a better diet to reduce the chronic inflammation that a poor diet is causing in the first place. That will be beneficial in all respects. Your Dad’s story has been repeated in massive numbers in the developed world, and increasingly so sadly.

I have read that Sugar is the cause of high blood pressure, not salt.

 

[DaveGrohl]

I am trying to remember what I heard about statins, taking them extends life expectancy by less than a week, but they do seem to increase the profitability of big pharma by far more than that! Another point, this is why food manufacturers loved (and employed) Ancel Keys, as his message opened the door to ultra processed food and big pharma. UPF makers love the idea they can put "low fat" on their packets to show how healthy they are (or green on a traffic light system) to encourage the less knowledgeable to live (or die from) the more profitable food stuffs. I wonder how much lobbying there is behind the Conservative message "we don't want to be a Nanny State, telling everyone what they should eat, or putting a sugar tax on food"!!! Of course, rather than a sugar tax on unhealthy food, we are having a general tax on everybody to pay for increased NHS spending.

I think the actual number of days is more like two or three, so yes less than a week. I’m not sure if that includes the actual cohort where they do provide a "benefit" or not. I rather think that it does (but don’t quote me!) in which case they don’t actually extend life at all in those who haven’t already had a heart attack.

 

[DaveGrohl]

I have read that Sugar is the cause of high blood pressure, not salt.

Salt is another example of us being led down a blind alley. It can be a problem for some but for most people it isn‘t the death on a plate that we’ve been led to believe. All cause mortality actually starts to climb when you get below the 6g of salt per day recommended. Also, starving yourself of salt actually makes the body crave sugar instead which has much more of an effect on blood pressure sadly.

 

[Two Tone]

Salt is another example of us being led down a blind alley. It can be a problem for some but for most people it isn‘t the death on a plate that we’ve been led to believe. All cause mortality actually starts to climb when you get below the 6g of salt per day recommended. Also, starving yourself of salt actually makes the body crave sugar instead which has much more of an effect on blood pressure sadly.

Rather ironic that if you take Statins, you should avoid eating or dinking grapefruit (juice).
I rather like(d) the Grapefruit plus Pineapple drink, Lilt. Which you also shouldn’t drink if on Statins.
Also bad for you if you are diabetic though - Too much sugar.
However, Aldi do a ‘No added’ Zero version. Disgustingly sweet though!!

If you eat Pineapple and want to make it sweeter, put salt on it, not sugar. Works a treat!
Try placing a piece of Pineapple on a bit of Ham in your fridge over night. By morning, the Ham has disappeared.
The Pineapple ate it!
I wonder if eating Pineapple (as in chunks) is a good fruit to eat if you are diabetic, especially if sweetened by salt?

I’ll definitely agree that starving yourself of salt, make you crave sugar.

 

[Macsky]

The below graph tells you everything you need to know about why carbs are the enemy and animal foods aren’t. The great thing about cutting down on carbs and eating more fat is that hunger is history. I’m not T2 or pre in any way but I’ve been eating this way for 3 years now and am never hungry.

Saw a doc on Twitter the other day that was saying that if we renamed T2 to ‘carbohydrate intolerance’ it would make avoidance and management far easier as folk would have a much better concept of what it is/causes it.

 

[Two Tone]

Saw a doc on Twitter the other day that was saying that if we renamed T2 to ‘carbohydrate intolerance’ it would make avoidance and management far easier as folk would have a much better concept of what it is/causes it.

Yeah, but they are forgetting the ‘Also significantly caused by Stress’ bit. Which is 40% as compared to 60% Carbs, as important.


If you were to do an Hb1Ac test 3 months after being told you are Pre or fully Diabetic, the stress caused upon learning that news will almost certainly raise your score. It did with me!

Unless your GP or nurse knows about this, they will say you are getting worse! Which will give you even more Stress, despite the alterations in diet and weight loss you have already achieved.
Therefore, DO NOT do another Hb1Ac test for at least 6 months after the 1st one.

 

[Two Tone]

I’d forgotten that my GP was going to ring me today to discuss some recent Blood tests (but no Hb1Ac). Everything is fine, PSA, Liver, Kidneys and Cholesterol numbers, etc.

I’d told them I was going to reduce my Statins by half, but hadn’t told them I’d subsequently decided to cut them out completely. This is for virtually every Statin side effect reason that the internet is full of, that has effected me.
To my surprise, she was more than happy for me to do this and wil remove them from future prescriptions.
She seemed to know quite a lot about Dr Ekberg’s views and gave a strong impression that she is in agreement with him. Especially regarding damaged LDL’s

I did mention salt. She said we must have some salt, but don’t use it excessively.

So, I’m rather pleased that my GP is in agreement with me.
I’m not sure the Cardio Rehab lot at the Hospital are going to be so accommodating though!

 

[DaveGrohl]

I’d forgotten that my GP was going to ring me today to discuss some recent Blood tests (but no Hb1Ac). Everything is fine, PSA, Liver, Kidneys and Cholesterol numbers, etc.

I’d told them I was going to reduce my Statins by half, but hadn’t told them I’d subsequently decided to cut them out completely. This is for virtually every Statin side effect reason that the internet is full of, that has effected me.
To my surprise, she was more than happy for me to do this and wil remove them from future prescriptions.
She seemed to know quite a lot about Dr Ekberg’s views and gave a strong impression that she is in agreement with him. Especially regarding damaged LDL’s

I did mention salt. She said we must have some salt, but don’t use it excessively.

So, I’m rather pleased that my GP is in agreement with me.
I’m not sure the Cardio Rehab lot at the Hospital are going to be so accommodating though!

Wow, sounds like you have one of the more enlightened ones. Thankfully more of them are becoming aware that past "treatments" were actually not helping anyone at all. Refreshing. Many aren’t as enlightened.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Yeah, but they are forgetting the ‘Also significantly caused by Stress’ bit. Which is 40% as compared to 60% Carbs, as important.


If you were to do an Hb1Ac test 3 months after being told you are Pre or fully Diabetic, the stress caused upon learning that news will almost certainly raise your score. It did with me!

Unless your GP or nurse knows about this, they will say you are getting worse! Which will give you even more Stress, despite the alterations in diet and weight loss you have already achieved.
Therefore, DO NOT do another Hb1Ac test for at least 6 months after the 1st one.

You could do worse than ask for a HOMA-IR test. Stress is never a good thing for the human body.