T3 Earwash

Zippy768

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wilts
Was speaking to a chap who used to work in trials for BASF who reckoned that in a dry year you should use older chemistry at T2 and use an SDHI at T3 as it will keep the flag leaf greener for longer. Said it wasn't really worth it in a normal year but that he'd seen good results in these dryer springs. BASF never pushed it as they always wanted to get the sales at T2.

Anyway i'm giving it a try on some, got a holiday booked for the 1st week of the school holidays....
Winter barley coming off early July then?👍
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
Was speaking to a chap who used to work in trials for BASF who reckoned that in a dry year you should use older chemistry at T2 and use an SDHI at T3 as it will keep the flag leaf greener for longer. Said it wasn't really worth it in a normal year but that he'd seen good results in these dryer springs. BASF never pushed it as they always wanted to get the sales at T2.

Anyway i'm giving it a try on some, got a holiday booked for the 1st week of the school holidays....
I've heard similar but with cheap old chem at T1 and then the 2nd sdhi at T3.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I've heard similar but with cheap old chem at T1 and then the 2nd sdhi at T3.
That depends on how brave you are feeling at T1. And you’ve done a T0 3 weeks or less before that. Your strategy is probably ok in the dry east but tricky where septoria pressure is higher. Prothio plus teb plus Bittersalz planned here for what look like decent potential yields here if we get a good grain fill period 👍
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
Who is doing one and what are you using .
Forecast after Wednesday is looking dry and warmer, so wondering if there’s much to be gained, other than piece of mind .
Depends what you want from a T3, rust, sept or fusarium control ??
I want a bit of all the above on Gp3’s but mainly Fusarium so will be Pro/Teb pre flowering/ rain event
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
That depends on how brave you are feeling at T1. And you’ve done a T0 3 weeks or less before that. Your strategy is probably ok in the dry east but tricky where septoria pressure is higher. Prothio plus teb plus Bittersalz planned here for what look like decent potential yields here if we get a good grain fill period 👍
This is the first year ever that I've used a sdhi at T1. Last year was so dry it got teb and previously it would have been epoxi and Ctl.
I do think the sdhi has gone a cracking job of keeping the lower canopy clean and I must admit I don't think I'd want to go back to using the old chemistry at T1 despite looking back with rose tinted glasses.
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire

EU’s Russian oil ban attempts falter​


Bruno Waterfield
, Brussels
Monday May 30 2022, 5.50pm, The Times
Global politics
Ukraine
President Zelensky addressed EU leaders during a meeting to discuss the situation in Ukraine as well as energy and food security

President Zelensky addressed EU leaders during a meeting to discuss the situation in Ukraine as well as energy and food security
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European Union leaders have failed to agree a full ban on Russian oil after efforts to increase pressure on the Kremlin were undermined by countries dependent on its energy imports.

The bloc’s energy payments to Russia since it invaded Ukraine total €56.5 billion, providing vital revenue for President Putin’s war machine. The lion’s share, almost €30 billion, is accounted for by crude oil supplies.

To cut off the cash to Russia, the EU had planned to ban all oil imports by the end of the year. However, the talks have stalled over the impact of shutting off pipelines to landlocked countries and fears of soaring crude prices.

Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, arriving at the meeting where leaders were attempting to agree sanctions against Russia
Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, arriving at the meeting where leaders were attempting to agree sanctions against Russia

Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, arriving at the meeting where leaders were attempting to agree sanctions against Russia
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Analysis: What will the ban on oil mean for the EU and Russia?

A compromise sanctions proposal to be discussed at a dinner tonight, likely to be fractious, will exempt imports delivered by pipeline, making an EU oil ban unworkable.


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The row pivots on the Soviet-era Druzhba, or “friendship”, pipeline which brings oil from Russian Siberia to eastern Germany, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia and the Czech Republic.
Opposition from Hungary, which is dependent on the pipeline for 65 per cent of the oil used for its petroleum production, has unravelled EU unity over sanctions. Wider but overlapping divisions over the impact of energy sanctions have also come into play.
Krisjanis Karins, the Latvian prime minister, attacked EU leaders for haggling over the costs of sanctions while Ukraine fights for survival against Russian aggression.
“We have to starve Russia of the funds to continue funding the war. We’re getting a little bogged down and we’re forgetting the big picture,” he said. “It’s only money, the Ukrainians are paying with their lives. We can and we must support them, if only out of self interest because only when Russia is defeated can we in Europe feel safe.”

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Viktor Orban, Hungary’s nationalist leader, has long been considered a Putin ally. He has asked for a four-year delay while he finds alternative supplies and EU funding worth €800 million.
The funding is agreed but is blocked in a separate row over a Brussels order for Orban to ditch legislation outlawing the “promotion” of gay and trans rights.
“There is no compromise at all,” he said, arriving at the EU summit this afternoon and blaming Brussels for the deadlock. “We are in a difficult position because of the irresponsible behaviour of the commission.”
He is additionally seeking binding political guarantees that Hungary will get access to sufficient supplies of Middle Eastern and north African oil if cut off by Russia or Ukraine, whose territory is crossed by the pipeline.

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“What is a problem for us, and why we have to fight today, is that if something happens to the Russian oil coming by pipeline, if there is no oil coming, then we should have the right for purchases by sea,” Orban said. “This is the guarantee we need.”
Volumes of oil carried by the pipeline account for one third of EU imports, which are mainly shipped by sea, but have increased by 200,000 barrels a day since the Ukraine war.
Oil buyers have increased demand for the pipeline oil as global prices spike, hitting more than $120 a barrel today. Closing Druzhba is seen as critical to making an EU ban work.
Draft diplomatic documents to be discussed by EU leaders tonight note that exempting the pipeline is necessary “due to the geographic situation of several member states, which generates specific dependence with no viable alternative supplies in the short term”.
The documents, seen by The Times, said: “Import prohibitions on crude oil from Russia should temporarily not apply, until the council decides otherwise, to imports by pipeline of crude oil from Russia into those member states.”
At least nine European governments are worried that exempting the cheap pipeline shipments of oil will create distortions in the EU’s internal market for petroleum products, giving an advantage to countries including Germany and Poland.
The concerns have revived a campaign by southern European countries, led by Italy and Spain, to drop an oil ban by introducing tariffs, capped at the same rate for the entire EU and pegged to Middle East crude prices which are 35 per cent higher than Russia’s
 

Bigjon44

Member
This is the first year ever that I've used a sdhi at T1. Last year was so dry it got teb and previously it would have been epoxi and Ctl.
I do think the sdhi has gone a cracking job of keeping the lower canopy clean and I must admit I don't think I'd want to go back to using the old chemistry at T1 despite looking back with rose tinted glasses.
What sd was that Rob?
Ascra?
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
This is the first year ever that I've used a sdhi at T1. Last year was so dry it got teb and previously it would have been epoxi and Ctl.
I do think the sdhi has gone a cracking job of keeping the lower canopy clean and I must admit I don't think I'd want to go back to using the old chemistry at T1 despite looking back with rose tinted glasses.
Would you want to turn up to a gunfight with a knife ??
 

T Hectares

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Berkshire
It would be fine if enemy didn't have any bullets in their guns. Problem is, we don't know if they've got any ammunition or not, and we often don't know until the trigger's pulled, at which point it might be too late.
In the SW you’d know that the Septoria races you are dealing with mean that all older chem will leave you on the back foot, rust varieties are known and will need treating, in most situations wheats with a premium attached will respond to a fusarium treatments, cleaner varieties grown for feed then don’t apply, there’s not too much guessing there is there ?
Fungicides are one of the best ROI with the current wheat price's, if there’s an agronomic justification then the economic one will follow
 

alomy75

Member
I only got my T2 on over the last few days. Plenty of ears out too.

Not sure whether a T3 is worthwhile now or not.
Mine is all clean this year so I’ve done the same and waited for ears to be out. I’m not planning a T3 at the moment. Some of mine this year had flowers visible 6 days after ear emergence…unless people bounce back and hit the fusarium timing all a T3 will do is top up disease control.
 

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