Tanker drivers

[Bald n Grumpy]

there is a certain % that are completely unemployable, what you can do about them, no idea, nor has anyone else. How they live, no idea either, benefits are not that easy to get, I am registered as disabled, even going through CAB, very limited amount l can claim, and they were saying, it is incredibly hard to get anything, over the basic dole, which l find hard to believe, but that is what they say.

Once you get into the system it appears easy for most. Bet you are self employed ? Makes a big difference from what I've been told
There's no incentive to work in this country anymore
Another thing puzzles me is how people are supposed to manage on minimum wage and pay tax if they go over the threshold, but if you are on benefits you get more and aren't taxed?
Rant over

 

[Ducati899]

OH is a vet nurse and they can’t get staff currently,3 x 12 shifts per week and the money is closer to £20 than £[email protected] get people apply for jobs then just go back to current employer and use it as a bargaining tool for more money

 

[som farmer]

Once you get into the system it appears easy for most. Bet you are self employed ? Makes a big difference from what I've been told
There's no incentive to work in this country anymore
Another thing puzzles me is how people are supposed to manage on minimum wage and pay tax if they go over the threshold, but if you are on benefits you get more and aren't taxed?
Rant over

just started my pension, must admit, £179 a week, + a bit disability, is rather nice, private pension built the house son lives in, if only l could get him to pay rent ...................Pension is taxable, the dis bit isn't, but yes, self employed, although the CAB didn't reckon that made much difference to claim any more benefits, hearing all the 'stories' about how much some people claim, found it hard to believe CAB. A friend was a bank manager in Bridgewater, listed as one of the worst/roughest towns in the UK. Told us about families that hadn't worked for generations, using the 'social' to build up huge investment portfolios, as well as some who would ask, how much was in their bank account, and can you help me to get some out.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

just started my pension, must admit, £179 a week, + a bit disability, is rather nice, private pension built the house son lives in, if only l could get him to pay rent ...................Pension is taxable, the dis bit isn't, but yes, self employed, although the CAB didn't reckon that made much difference to claim any more benefits, hearing all the 'stories' about how much some people claim, found it hard to believe CAB. A friend was a bank manager in Bridgewater, listed as one of the worst/roughest towns in the UK. Told us about families that hadn't worked for generations, using the 'social' to build up huge investment portfolios, as well as some who would ask, how much was in their bank account, and can you help me to get some out.

Farmer/ contractor friend slipped and broke something, was in plaster and on crutches. Couldn't work and had a young family , all he was offered was £ 35 a week plus he would have to go and see another doctor about 20 miles away to get it . Wasn't worth the hassle to him, he was self employed
Have been told by someone that they would need at least £30k a year to even consider getting a job , and the partners in to much pain to work ( unless it's for cash)
The system is fudged

 

[som farmer]

had to have an assessment, to get anything, turned down, appealed, with a doctors letter, and approved.
CAB put it like this, 90% fail, on appeal, 90% fail, next step tribunal, got it on the appeal stage, but at tribunal, 90% pass, you can see their logic, and does it weed out the shirkers ? Doubt it, they know how to play the system. Good friend got his ribs broken, when a cow pushed him all round the yard, ribs have never mended, so pretty bad, refused, appeal refused, tribunal, surgeon, solicitor, and a civil servant, they both got a lecture about wasting the surgeons time, no way was friend fit to work. The sting, he got an insurance payout, not a lot, couldn't touch that, or all benefits would stop. In the end, he got fed up, of the yearly assessments, and used the money.

 

[Jdunn55]

Get more and more excited by this calf every time I go near him! Dehorning today and turns out hes polled!

 

[Mr Mackay]

Get more and more excited by this calf every time I go near him! Dehorning today and turns out hes polled!View attachment 979367

Does he drive?
Nice calf btw

 

[Jdunn55]

Does he drive?
Nice calf btw

wrong one again

 

[kiwi pom]

OH is a vet nurse and they can’t get staff currently,3 x 12 shifts per week and the money is closer to £20 than £[email protected] get people apply for jobs then just go back to current employer and use it as a bargaining tool for more money

To use the above situation as an example, have they considered the fact that it may be very difficult for people to do a 12 hour shift?
The way families are split up and spread out these days means child care can kill a lot of these jobs before they start.

With truck driving, some jobs require you to be out all week. If you have kids, someone has to look after them and has to manage without you all the time. Why do that if you don't have to and rates are only (until recently) about 11 quid an hour?

 

[Ducati899]

To use the above situation as an example, have they considered the fact that it may be very difficult for people to do a 12 hour shift?
The way families are split up and spread out these days means child care can kill a lot of these jobs before they start.

With truck driving, some jobs require you to be out all week. If you have kids, someone has to look after them and has to manage without you all the time. Why do that if you don't have to and rates are only (until recently) about 11 quid an hour?

There is the choice to split those hours and days to suit the individual but they prefer if people could do 3 on 4 off as previous and current employees wanted that for staff well being

 

[Ducati899]

To use the above situation as an example, have they considered the fact that it may be very difficult for people to do a 12 hour shift?
The way families are split up and spread out these days means child care can kill a lot of these jobs before they start.

With truck driving, some jobs require you to be out all week. If you have kids, someone has to look after them and has to manage without you all the time. Why do that if you don't have to and rates are only (until recently) about 11 quid an hour?

also there seems to be a big decline in newly qualified nurses in recent years the OH tells me

 

[Sid]

also there seems to be a big decline in newly qualified nurses in recent years the OH tells me

All this money being thrown at lorry drivers just because there is a shortage, £10 an hour locally to work in a care home or with vulnerable adults or children.

I couldn't do it

 

[kiwi pom]

also there seems to be a big decline in newly qualified nurses in recent years the OH tells me

I wonder why that is? Has it got harder to qualify or just not a sought after job anymore?

 

[Ducati899]

I wonder why that is? Has it got harder to qualify or just not a sought after job anymore?

massive push highlighting mental health in the industry currently do maybe that,it’s a referral practice so it can get pretty intense

 

[som farmer]

l sometimes think, that when word comes from the senior 'management' cut labour, each sub manager passes it down the line, as they don't want to lose anybody, from 'their' bit, result is the people/nurses on the front line go, and middle management gets more bloated, with less staff to manage, ends up a vicious circle.
We knew a probation officer, he had 7 managers above him, 'supervising' his work, he had never met 4 of them, and every time someone on his level left, his workload increased.
Having been in hospital to many times, not suprised nurses are short, frontline staff are brilliant, management is awful, must be depressing to work under that type regime.

 

[tepapa]

also there seems to be a big decline in newly qualified nurses in recent years the OH tells me

Government made it compulsory to get a degree to become a nurse. So 3 yes in uni to start at the bottom wiping bottoms and cleaning up sick. The expectations don't meet the reality, so a lot won't train or leave soon after starting.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

l sometimes think, that when word comes from the senior 'management' cut labour, each sub manager passes it down the line, as they don't want to lose anybody, from 'their' bit, result is the people/nurses on the front line go, and middle management gets more bloated, with less staff to manage, ends up a vicious circle.
We knew a probation officer, he had 7 managers above him, 'supervising' his work, he had never met 4 of them, and every time someone on his level left, his workload increased.
Having been in hospital to many times, not suprised nurses are short, frontline staff are brilliant, management is awful, must be depressing to work under that type regime.

Google the corporate ant who was made redundant
Sums up the whole system, more manager's than workers