Tarting Up A Farm Entrance Onto The Highway

[teslacoils]

My farm has two established entrances to the highway making a kind of horseshoe around my yard. The second one is not used that often but I would like to tart it up. Is there a rulebook for how it must be done where it joins the road (unclassified road) for stuff like kerbstones, materials etc?

 

[upnortheast]

Highways will have a spec according to the type of road it joins. Google should bring them up
For an unclassified road the temptation is just to do.
These kerbs have been here for years, we have just cleaned the soil & grass off them

 

[Lincs Lass]

When my landlord did his new gateway ,,it had to be tarmacked 4 meters back from the road edge ,kerb edges set and have a drainage gully across the entrance to direct the water into a ditch ,,thats been a total waste of time and materials as it filled up and now the water just goes out onto the road

 

[teslacoils]

Ty. If it's going to be done last thing I want is a clipboard monkey making me redo it.

 

[Lincsman]

I did mine with a nice set of radius kerbs and tarmacked it, put a dropped kerb in as it got to the road edge (that only has grass verges) so no danger of a car getting a shock if it pulled off a little. It looks the part and no-one has "objected" which is all that matters I think.

If you do the same work out your radius, as you dont want artic trailers climbing Kerbs, and even then get a good "brace" under them.

 

[Fendt516profi]

When my landlord did his new gateway ,,it had to be tarmacked 4 meters back from the road edge ,kerb edges set and have a drainage gully across the entrance to direct the water into a ditch ,,thats been a total waste of time and materials as it filled up and now the water just goes out onto the road

Maintenance?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Unless your local authority have specific guidelines my only suggestion would be to use a bound material for the first 10m to avoid loose material being pulled onto the highway

 

[RWG Contracts]

My farm has two established entrances to the highway making a kind of horseshoe around my yard. The second one is not used that often but I would like to tart it up. Is there a rulebook for how it must be done where it joins the road (unclassified road) for stuff like kerbstones, materials etc?

What sort of road are you joking into?

to install, improve or alter an entrance you should apply for a 278 permit. However if your on a little country lane I’d just get on and do it, what’s the chances of them ever finding our

 

[George from SJM Planning]

What sort of road are you joking into?

to install, improve or alter an entrance you should apply for a 278 permit. However if your on a little country lane I’d just get on and do it, what’s the chances of them ever finding our

Do you need a 278 for an existing entrance onto an unclassified road?

 

[Lincsman]

Do you need a 278 for an existing entrance onto an unclassified road?

I didnt... but then I didnt ask!

 

[upnortheast]

Specifications on here if you are doing it by the book

Standard drawings for vehicular access

Standard drawings published by Development Control including access layout, footways, passing place, car turning place and layout on classified roads.

www.suffolk.gov.uk

If you are doing it "officially " you will need to use contractors with the correct "tickets " for working on the highway. which wil affect the ££££££

Just thinking back a few years. Some fields up the road changed hands, the new owners wanted new gates x 3 onto the unclassified road.
They did it "properly " as it was part of the sale deal Highways came & put kerbs up the roadside & the splay, back as far as the wall line & tarmaced the area.
Never heard what it cost

 

[RWG Contracts]

Do you need a 278 for an existing entrance onto an unclassified road?

unclassifiedor unadopted? If it’s an adopted highway you need a permit

 

[teslacoils]

Unclassified road. Chap I normally use has the tickets for working in the road. It's an existing and used entrance, but it's mostly soil which has been patched up with stone etc over time. Just wanted it smarter, so kerb stones and concrete / tarmac.

 

[e3120]

We put a new gateway onto an unclassified road a few years back. One morning we found the 20 yard hardcore stretch nicely asphalted after overnight main road works. Does that make it official? We'd never have got permission, as it's close to the junction with the main road.

 

[Hesston4860s]

My yard is off an unclassified road and there was no official gateway. I dug it out 18 inches put rubble in topped it with limestone and finished it with road plannings.
Miserable old cow over the road reported me to highways for putting in a gateway, highways told her there was nothing they could do. As it’s an unclassified road if I want a gateway I can have one they can’t stop me !.
It’s twice as wide now as it was back then too.

 

[RWG Contracts]

My yard is off an unclassified road and there was no official gateway. I dug it out 18 inches put rubble in topped it with limestone and finished it with road plannings.
Miserable old cow over the road reported me to highways for putting in a gateway, highways told her there was nothing they could do. As it’s an unclassified road if I want a gateway I can have one they can’t stop me !.
It’s twice as wide now as it was back then too.

How long ago was this?
You can’t just put new access in with planning or notifying the council.
On an unclassified road you don’t need planning but you do need to notify the council

 

[George from SJM Planning]

How long ago was this?
You can’t just put new access in with planning or notifying the council.
On an unclassified road you don’t need planning but you do need to notify the council

I was told by Kent Highways recently that our client only needed to notify them if they were developing highways property. As their title showed they owned to the highways edge including the verge then highways said to carry on

 

[Hesston4860s]

How long ago was this?
You can’t just put new access in with planning or notifying the council.
On an unclassified road you don’t need planning but you do need to notify the council

2014 widened it last year.

 

[Tarw Coch]

How long ago was this?
You can’t just put new access in with planning or notifying the council.
On an unclassified road you don’t need planning but you do need to notify the council

Perhaps someone at the council had the same opinion of the lady who reported @Hesston4860s as he has.?

 

[Hesston4860s]

Perhaps someone at the council had the same opinion of the lady who reported @Hesston4860s as he has.?

That was actually the first time she reported me, there where 3 times More tho the last was when I stacked straw in the yard and she made them come out as she thought it might burn her house down ?.
She wanted the war but I can assure you I’ll win it ???