The Beef Tracker thread (no Sheep)

[Party Pete]

To make a living and i like living where i do etc etc but im under no illusions a living is best any beef farmer can expect .

I am the same I enjoy what I do . If you enjoy what you do and can make a living be happy a lot of folk will work their whole life doing something they hate

 

[Hilly]

I am the same I enjoy what I do . If you enjoy what you do and can make a living be happy a lot of folk will work their whole life doing something they hate

Agree , i am very happy but i can see plenty wrong in beef industry that saddens me , would you rather folk burrie heads in sand ? Probably why the crooks have been able to take it over in the forst place …..

 

[livestock 1]

When I look back at the beef job anything after bse has always been a bit of a struggle

 

[harperfarmer]

Iv just brought these in today, they are booked to go 1 week in December, they have had no corn, iv started them on red clover bales, with it only being 5 weeks is it worth corning them?View attachment 1073521View attachment 1073522

Depends what rate they are growing at. If managing 1-1.2kg/day just on silage alone then hardly worth bothering with. 3kg/day for 35 days = 90p/day or £31.50. @£4.50/kg dead they'd need to gain an additional 14kg (at 50% KO) or 7kg dead to cover the cost of the grain. Up to you to see if its worth it.

 

[goodevans]

Depends what rate they are growing at. If managing 1-1.2kg/day just on silage alone then hardly worth bothering with. 3kg/day for 35 days = 90p/day or £31.50. @£4.50/kg dead they'd need to gain an additional 14kg (at 50% KO) or 7kg dead to cover the cost of the grain. Up to you to see if its worth it.

If they ate 3kg of grain a day would they eat less silage over that period

 

[willie waver]

How long have people been saying that though?

It doesn't "have" to be anything. We've just to take what we're given.

Farmers have been saying this since spring 2022. In which time many finishers have bought stores, fed them £300/t barley, grown grass/silage on £700/t fert, used £1.10/l diesel in doing so.

Guess what there back at the ringside for more! Why if it isn't £5/kg?

because store prices haven't moved at all. its suckler farmers that are taking the hit, not the finishers

 

[Party Pete]

Agree , i am very happy but i can see plenty wrong in beef industry that saddens me , would you rather folk burrie heads in sand ? Probably why the crooks have been able to take it over in the forst place …..

Absolutely we shouldn’t bury heads in sand . Going back to being optimistic though I think the crooks are cutting their own throats now . So hopefully a change is coming

 

[harperfarmer]

If they ate 3kg of grain a day would they eat less silage over that period

Very true. I suppose they would, what does one value one's silage at though?! In all honesty if I was booking cattle in 5 weeks away and they'd had nothing up until then I'd just carry on as I was then kill them. They want hard grub for 3 months + if going to bother at all.

 

[goodevans]

Very true. I suppose they would, what does one value one's silage at though?! In all honesty if I was booking cattle in 5 weeks away and they'd had nothing up until then I'd just carry on as I was then kill them. They want hard grub for 3 months + if going to bother at all.

£60/70 a bale in some farm sales around the peak district I'm told and towards £50 at Shrewsbury but I wouldn't want to buy it at that

 

[Hilly]

Absolutely we shouldn’t bury heads in sand . Going back to being optimistic though I think the crooks are cutting their own throats now . So hopefully a change is coming

100% correct !! Sooner the better imo .

 

[Optimus]

How long have people been saying that though?

It doesn't "have" to be anything. We've just to take what we're given.

Farmers have been saying this since spring 2022. In which time many finishers have bought stores, fed them £300/t barley, grown grass/silage on £700/t fert, used £1.10/l diesel in doing so.

Guess what there back at the ringside for more! Why if it isn't £5/kg?

Got to £4.85 last week but I have a feeling that's as high as I'll get.hope I'm wrong though

 

[Woolless]

Absolutely we shouldn’t bury heads in sand . Going back to being optimistic though I think the crooks are cutting their own throats now . So hopefully a change is coming

What do you think will happen?

 

[Chae1]

because store prices haven't moved at all. its suckler farmers that are taking the hit, not the finishers

Don't know about others, but we won't be selling as many stores next spring.

We are fortunate enough to be in a lowland area growing crops and reasonably self sufficient. Realise everyone doesn't have that option.

 

[Party Pete]

What do you think will happen?

Fairly simple . I think their going to become seriously short of beef .

 

[Martyn]

Very true. I suppose they would, what does one value one's silage at though?! In all honesty if I was booking cattle in 5 weeks away and they'd had nothing up until then I'd just carry on as I was then kill them. They want hard grub for 3 months + if going to bother at all.

They are contracted many months ahead, the reason I haven't corned them is its crimp corn & only now starting to feed cows, if you don't use it fast enough it heats. I'll leave them on bales, I was thinking they need 100 days + to make any difference..

 

[Hilly]

Fairly simple . I think their going to become seriously short of beef .

Dairy beef and imports .

 

[livestock 1]

because store prices haven't moved at all. its suckler farmers that are taking the hit, not the finishers

Yes just the same or stop at times worth less

 

[Henarar]

Their will never be a big pay day , if it goes to £10 the leaches will have the lot off farmers .

Best stay away from leaches best you can

 

[Hilly]

Best stay away from leaches best you can

I do ! Plenty you cant live without tho.

 

[thorpe]

because store prices haven't moved at all. its suckler farmers that are taking the hit, not the finishers

going by the reports of the suckler sales are those guys taking a hit?