The cartel are coming for you.

[delilah]

I have been posting about this pincer movement on other threads but you haven't been reading it. You do need to.

https://foodmanagement.today/new-co...-cutting-climate-impact-of-uk-food-and-drink/

The cartel have planted Dave Lewis in WWF UK. His job is to get all of the cartel signed up to this, as he knows that if any of them break rank they wont pull it off.

They are lining you up to take all of the blame for the environmental damage being caused in the food chain. Damage that has got naff all to do with the primary producer. The result will be an escalation in the consolidation that has been taking place for years, as more and more of you fall by the wayside due to the burden of delivering this greenwashing. The end game is to ensure sufficiently few primary producers in each sector that they can effectively manage the numbers as vertically integrated serfs.

You need to see this as your final warning. Reject consolidation, turn round and move towards diversity in the food chain. Otherwise, last one out can shut the gate.

 

[delilah]

Attached an insight into what is coming your way.

 

[delilah]

The plant.

https://www.wwf.org.uk/who-we-are/trustees/dave-lewis

 

[bobk]

I have been posting about this pincer movement on other threads but you haven't been reading it. You do need to.

https://foodmanagement.today/new-co...-cutting-climate-impact-of-uk-food-and-drink/

The cartel have planted Dave Lewis in WWF UK. His job is to get all of the cartel signed up to this, as he knows that if any of them break rank they wont pull it off.

They are lining you up to take all of the blame for the environmental damage being caused in the food chain. Damage that has got naff all to do with the primary producer. The result will be an escalation in the consolidation that has been taking place for years, as more and more of you fall by the wayside due to burden of delivering this greenwashing. The end game is to ensure sufficiently few primary producers in each sector that they can effectively manage the numbers as vertically integrated serfs.

You need to see this as your final warning. Reject consolidation, turn round and move towards diversity in the food chain. Otherwise, last one out can shut the gate.

I've locked the door and turned phone off

 

[Macsky]

I have been posting about this pincer movement on other threads but you haven't been reading it. You do need to.

https://foodmanagement.today/new-co...-cutting-climate-impact-of-uk-food-and-drink/

The cartel have planted Dave Lewis in WWF UK. His job is to get all of the cartel signed up to this, as he knows that if any of them break rank they wont pull it off.

They are lining you up to take all of the blame for the environmental damage being caused in the food chain. Damage that has got naff all to do with the primary producer. The result will be an escalation in the consolidation that has been taking place for years, as more and more of you fall by the wayside due to burden of delivering this greenwashing. The end game is to ensure sufficiently few primary producers in each sector that they can effectively manage the numbers as vertically integrated serfs.

You need to see this as your final warning. Reject consolidation, turn round and move towards diversity in the food chain. Otherwise, last one out can shut the gate.

What, in practical layman’s terms, should the bulk primary producers do?

 

[Farfrae]

What, in practical layman’s terms, should the bulk primary producers do?

Take a leaf out of the Dutch farmers play book?

In the Netherlands, the political establishment is reeling from the victory of the Farmer-Citizen Movement (BBB) in the recent provincial elections – an extraordinary result for an anti-establishment party that was formed just over three years ago, says Thomas Fazi in UnHerd. He has written an insightful piece on the sinister global agenda that the farmers are pushing back against.

The Great Food Reset has begun

We all lose from the global war on farmers

unherd.com

 

[delilah]

What, in practical layman’s terms, should the bulk primary producers do?

Tell their national representative bodies, to start representing them.

"We need to learn from nature. In nature there isn't uniformity, but rather there is diversity. We have allowed our food system to go down a dead end road of ever fewer producers, ever fewer processors and ever fewer retailers. We as an industry have been complicit in this. We acknowledge our failures in supporting a policy of fewer farmers and greater food miles. We will now work with our allies in the environmental and social justice movement to bring about change. We will explain to Government the benefits of a more diverse food system, and lobby hard for the necessary measures"

Tell them they can leave out the 'environmental and social justice movement' bit if it makes you queasy. But that, in essence, is the sort of sea change that our national representative bodies need to embrace.

 

[delilah]

I've locked the door and turned phone off

Yeah, but the cartel have a key to your door, or are you cooking your own tea ?

 

[bobk]

Yeah, but the cartel have a key to your door.

But not the finger on the trigger , bang ,

 

[Suffolk Serf]

I have been posting about this pincer movement on other threads but you haven't been reading it. You do need to.

https://foodmanagement.today/new-co...-cutting-climate-impact-of-uk-food-and-drink/

The cartel have planted Dave Lewis in WWF UK. His job is to get all of the cartel signed up to this, as he knows that if any of them break rank they wont pull it off.

They are lining you up to take all of the blame for the environmental damage being caused in the food chain. Damage that has got naff all to do with the primary producer. The result will be an escalation in the consolidation that has been taking place for years, as more and more of you fall by the wayside due to burden of delivering this greenwashing. The end game is to ensure sufficiently few primary producers in each sector that they can effectively manage the numbers as vertically integrated serfs.

You need to see this as your final warning. Reject consolidation, turn round and move towards diversity in the food chain. Otherwise, last one out can shut the gate.

I'm agree it's wrong but going to keep a foot in both camps- soon starting to have a large herd of sows on contract for a big company (having been previously thrown to the wolves by an even bigger company) for the day job while simultaneously aiming to subsist more and more from my largish garden.

 

[Macsky]

Tell their national representative bodies, to start representing them.

"We need to learn from nature. In nature there isn't uniformity, but rather there is diversity. We have allowed our food system to go down a dead end road of ever fewer producers, ever fewer processors and ever fewer retailers. We as an industry have been complicit in this. We acknowledge our failures in supporting a policy of fewer farmers and greater food miles. We will now work with our allies in the environmental and social justice movement to bring about change. We will explain to Government the benefits of a more diverse food system, and lobby hard for the necessary measures"

Tell them they can leave out the 'environmental and social justice movement' bit if it makes you queasy. But that, in essence, is the sort of sea change that our national representative bodies need to embrace.

The large representative body doesn’t appear interested in listening, so what then?

 

[stroller]

The large representative body are part of the problem, so what then?

A more accurate description

 

[devonbeef]

The large representative body doesn’t appear interested in listening, so what then?

Join the BFU and build it in to something that can fight for us.It is the only way.

 

[Goweresque]

The end game is to ensure sufficiently few primary producers in each sector that they can effectively manage the numbers as vertically integrated serfs.

Thats nonsense. If the Supermarket cartel (as you term it) drives thousands of small producers out of business then the supermarkets then face dealing with a small number of producers, who will have much more market power. The weakness of farming is precisely that there's tens of thousands of us. And we don't (or indeed can't by law) stand together. No one farmer can affect the supply into the market by refusing to accept what the processors offer. But when one producer controls (say) 20% of the market then if they say 'We're not accepting your price and are withholding our produce' then that does affect the market price. And gives them leverage, that we all lack as small producers.

The last thing the supermarkets want is a few producers with more pricing power. And driving all the small producers out of the market will create exactly that.

 

[delilah]

Thats nonsense. If the Supermarket cartel (as you term it) drives thousands of small producers out of business then the supermarkets then face dealing with a small number of producers, who will have much more market power. The weakness of farming is precisely that there's tens of thousands of us. And we don't (or indeed can't by law) stand together. No one farmer can affect the supply into the market by refusing to accept what the processors offer. But when one producer controls (say) 20% of the market then if they say 'We're not accepting your price and are withholding our produce' then that does affect the market price. And gives them leverage, that we all lack as small producers.

The last thing the supermarkets want is a few producers with more pricing power. And driving all the small producers out of the market will create exactly that.

Did you not read the OP ?

They are working together on this. Go find a dictionary and look up 'cartel'. If the handful of primary producers of any given commodity decide to get bolshy, and challenge the demands made of them, where are they going to turn for an alternative outlet ?

edit: Can you provide some examples of where the cartel have sought to source from more, rather than less, primary producers ?

 

[Goweresque]

Oh, and if this is big business attempting to destroy small farmers, where are the environmentalists who are on farming's side (as you keep telling us) coming out and campaigning against such moves? Where's your 'Sustain' lot now?

 

[delilah]

Oh, and if this is big business attempting to destroy small farmers, where are the environmentalists who are on farming's side (as you keep telling us) coming out and campaigning against such moves? Where's your 'Sustain' lot now?

That can wait. Lets see your evidence for the cartel wanting a diverse food chain.

 

[Goweresque]

Did you not read the OP ?

They are working together on this. Go find a dictionary and look up 'cartel'. If the handful of primary producers of any given commodity decide to get bolshy, and challenge the demands made of them, where are they going to turn for an alternative outlet ?

Do you not understand economics? If there are thousands of producers of X, and few buyers, then the buyers can aways dictate pricing, because if any one producer refuses to play ball his neighbour probably will. We all know a farmer's worst enemy is his neighbour not the supermarkets.

Whereas if there's half a dozen producers of X and half a dozen buyers, then the playing field is levelled. Where are supermarkets going to get milk if one producer controlling a third of the milk production says 'Pay more or get no milk'?

 

[delilah]

Do you not understand economics? If there are thousands of producers of X, and few buyers, then the buyers can aways dictate pricing, because if any one producer refuses to play ball his neighbour probably will. We all know a farmer's worst enemy is his neighbour not the supermarkets.

Whereas if there's half a dozen producers of X and half a dozen buyers, then the playing field is levelled. Where are supermarkets going to get milk if one producer controlling a third of the milk production says 'Pay more or get no milk'?

Answer the question. What examples can you provide of the cartel wanting to maintain a diverse food system ?

 

[Goweresque]

That can wait. Lets see your evidence for the cartel wanting a diverse food chain.

No, you've been telling us that environmentalists have got farmer's back, we should be working together. Well where are the environmentalists now, opposing these moves then?