The Duck has been warning us!

hoff135

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scotland
Given we seem to be getting it from all angles is there actually any point in investing in farming for the future or is all this just hot air?

I mean is there any point puting up a new shed for cows for example?
 

Wellytrack

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Given we seem to be getting it from all angles is there actually any point in investing in farming for the future or is all this just hot air?

I mean is there any point puting up a new shed for cows for example?

If you have a shed to go up I'd put it up. It may not all be bad news as this new wave of consciencable meat consumers may also wish to spend a little more and eat real meat locally grown to a high welfare standard on locally produced feedstuffs grazing on areas of land that capture more carbon than is released.

The future of imports from overseas may look very different.
 

Swarfmonkey

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Location
Hampshire
Newspaper that's taken millions in sponsorship from an investor in fake meats then bigs up fake meats? Well, that's not exactly a surprise. I sure as hell wouldn't take any research carried out by the Good Food Institute at face value either, they're well and truly on the fake meat bandwagon and it isn't for the good of thee, me, or the environment. They're on it to benefit those who've financially backed them.

All in all, it's propaganda at a level that Goebbels would be rather proud of.
 

hoff135

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Location
scotland
If you have a shed to go up I'd put it up. It may not all be bad news as this new wave of consciencable meat consumers may also wish to spend a little more and eat real meat locally grown to a high welfare standard on locally produced feedstuffs grazing on areas of land that capture more carbon than is released.

The future of imports from overseas may look very different.
It feels like that calm before the storm right now. Every day there is an article about farming destroying the planet or that we will need to reduce livestock numbers or that new welfare rules will make it almost impossible to do the job in the hope we give up.

So far nothing has actually happened that I am aware. It really makes it difficult when you have no idea where exactly all this is going.
 

Hampton

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BASIS
Location
Shropshire
The same people who are vehemently opposed to genetically modifying plants so that they can store more available nutrients inside them and prevent deficiencies such as rickets, anaemia and osteoporosis are delighted and triumphant at the possibility of eating “meat” grown on a Petrie dish.
If it wasn’t serious it would be funny
Effing hypocrites
 

Jimdog1

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Devon
It feels like that calm before the storm right now. Every day there is an article about farming destroying the planet or that we will need to reduce livestock numbers or that new welfare rules will make it almost impossible to do the job in the hope we give up.

So far nothing has actually happened that I am aware. It really makes it difficult when you have no idea where exactly all this is going.
But that is not the reality is it. I am confident that what I do adds to the environment not destroy it. Perhaps we don't always appreciate the nature around us every day. If you took time out and looked around you I'm sure you would see that you do far more that is good than bad.
 

Wellytrack

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It feels like that calm before the storm right now. Every day there is an article about farming destroying the planet or that we will need to reduce livestock numbers or that new welfare rules will make it almost impossible to do the job in the hope we give up.

So far nothing has actually happened that I am aware. It really makes it difficult when you have no idea where exactly all this is going.

Perhaps fattening off less complicated ration will be the future, obviously slower growth and longer maturity times will result from this, but environmentally I can see a turn away from the reliance upon imported cereals.
 

Agrivator

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Scottsih Borders
It seems that ''artificial meat'' companies are facing a decline in demand, and are having to reduce prices, which will see them bankrupt if demand does not pick up.

.https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/06/beyond-meat-bynd-q1-earnings-.html
 
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southwest
The article is mostly recycled press releases from businesses and charities with a vested interest in non meat food production and marketing. There is no source for the claim that 80% of people are willing to try factory made meat substitute. Likewise, most of the environmental claims are utter rubbish well wide of the truth

Two facts do stand out though:

1. Factory made meat substitute still needs huge amounts of funding from speculators

2. Despite halving costs, fake chicken is still about 10 times more expensive than the real thing.

I wouldn't worry about people giving up real food in droves.
 

Goweresque

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Location
North Wilts
I wonder if it could be a good thing from the UK producers point of view. Lets say the factory grown meat thing turns out to be a goer and is far cheaper than even the cheapest imported meat is today. There will then be two prices, the 'I don't care where it comes from, as long as its cheap' one, and the 'I'm not eating that factory made muck, give me a decent steak' one. And the UK producer will be well placed to supply that second market. After all UK producers are already losing out to the cheaper foreign imports right now, as the 'anything as long as its cheap' brigade can't go lower than import prices. But when they can they'll switch immediately to factory meat. Leaving the consumer who is more worried about quality than price, who the UK producers can market to. I suspect the 'quality over price' market will turn out to be significant, once everyone is forced to make a choice between real and lab meat.
 

hoff135

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Location
scotland
It really doesn't matter who wrote it. The message is clear and beyond doubt. The momentum is building and it is pretty much unstoppable. So many factors are converging towards the same end.
The public are being drip fed this stuff all the time. Soon we will be to the general population what bankers were in 2009
 

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