The Environment.....

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Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
What exactly is Mr Gove going to be paying us for ?
Planting trees ?
Wildlife habitat ?
Re wilding ?o_O
Organic farming ?
Chasing butterflies ?
Encouraging nettles ?
Being pleasant to ramblers ?:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck:
Talking nicely to squirrels ? (only red ones, mind )

All a bit vague so far isn't it ?
 

Sussex Martin

Member
Location
Burham Kent
What exactly is Mr Gove going to be paying us for ?
Planting trees ?
Wildlife habitat ?
Re wilding ?o_O
Organic farming ?
Chasing butterflies ?
Encouraging nettles ?
Being pleasant to ramblers ?:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck:
Talking nicely to squirrels ? (only red ones, mind )

All a bit vague so far isn't it ?
Vague for a reason I recon as he has come up with a few ideas that need to be discussed by more than just him and a couple of aids. Speculative threads will only make you worry even more once the usual suspects arrive on the scene.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
What exactly is Mr Gove going to be paying us for ?
Planting trees ?
Wildlife habitat ?
Re wilding ?o_O
Organic farming ?
Chasing butterflies ?
Encouraging nettles ?
Being pleasant to ramblers ?:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck:
Talking nicely to squirrels ? (only red ones, mind )

All a bit vague so far isn't it ?
bored are we get out more you should ;)
 
Location
southwest
The thing to remember when anyone talks about "the environment" is that it is and always has been constantly changing.

For example, in historic terms hedges are relatively new, lots of woodland was planted after the Napoleonic wars when farming went into a slump, vast swaths of countryside was derelict in the 30's etc.etc.

So, do people want to preserve the countryside as it is now? Or how it was at some point in the past? Or just how they think it should be?
 

Old Boar

Member
Location
West Wales
If you type "English countryside" into google and click images, that is what most people think of as the country - thatch cottages, wild flowers, rolling hills...
Maybe there will be a grant to start up a smock workshop and another grant to pay us to lean on gates, wearing said smock, chewing a bit of grass....

The last thing the countryside seems to be is a factory floor to produce food. The connection between sheep in fields and a lamb chop in the supermarket has long gone.
 

Kevtherev

Member
Location
Welshpool Powys
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76 gets paid to rear beavers
 

richard hammond

Member
BASIS
What exactly is Mr Gove going to be paying us for ?
Planting trees ?
Wildlife habitat ?
Re wilding ?o_O
Organic farming ?
Chasing butterflies ?
Encouraging nettles ?
Being pleasant to ramblers ?:yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck::yuck:
Talking nicely to squirrels ? (only red ones, mind )

All a bit vague so far isn't it ?
None of this will matter after a while as every body will have starved, not long ago we would need to feed a doubled population on less land by 2050 !!
 

Fossil

Member
It’s really not difficult to predict. Take a flick through an HLS els or css handbook, with some tweaks to keep with the latest trends. If you are arable add some grass ley options and no till options to the old wild bird seed, pollen mix, margins and corners and I doubt you will be a million miles away. If you are grass there will no doubt be some low input options, herb rich award options etc etc. Add some capital grants for precision farming.
 
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Campani

Member
Taking to someone yesterday who was paid £450/ year not to plough over historic ruins. 10 years £4500. No longer in a scheme can now plough over it.
What a waste of taxpayers money

Are you suggesting more protected areas and the regulation that comes with it. Would be a better use of taxpayers money? Because landowners can't be trusted to look after heritage unless they are being paid money or forced not to by regulation.
Personally I would hope enough landowners, would be able to work in a way that doesn't destroy our history. Maybe grazing, or mintill.
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Are you suggesting more protected areas and the regulation that comes with it. Would be a better use of taxpayers money? Because landowners can't be trusted to look after heritage unless they are being paid money or forced not to by regulation.
Personally I would hope enough landowners, would be able to work in a way that doesn't destroy our history. Maybe grazing, or mintill.

No i am not.
The area used to be cultivated. It was then of financial benefits not to and now it has changed again. Was it a good spend to stop cultivations for 10 years only for them to be started again now with no restrictions?

Everything is history but where do you draw the line. Vast majority of old barns in Devon have been converted. When do you stop this to preserve the ones remaining?
 

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