The Golden Age - part III

Walterp

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Pembrokeshire
The Great War tested to destruction the longstanding British policy of allowing competition in markets increasingly dominated by overseas produce to set price levels.

Flanders, Verdun and the naval blockades stripped Europe bare not only of men and horses, but of imported food and materiel. In 1917 Britain introduced food rationing; civilians in central Europe starved; and Russian food riots ended up up-ending an entire State. And the German Army advanced, once more, to the gates of Paris.

Thus hunger and fear prompted British politicians to abandon the 'Cheap Food Policy‘ - the Corn Production Act 1917 guaranteed minimum prices up to 1922. Cash and confidence being essential farming prerequisites, the Act included a clause stating that four years' notice would be given if Parliament intended to abolish them.

Farmers borrowed to invest in their farms, whilst their wives and daughters put their hands to the plough, sometimes deep into the night. In 1918 the UK harvested the heaviest crops in living memory.

You know how this ends: food became more plentiful after the Armistice, prices started falling and - just as British farmers looked to their price guarantees to protect them from serious financial loss - the Agriculture Act was repealed, in spite of the clause about four years' notice.

When Adrian Bell began his farming career in Suffolk during 1920 he describes farmers at Bury St Edmunds mart (itself now long-gone) complaining about the falling prices; little did they realise, he added ruefully, that prices would continue declining and that, within a few years, most of the complainers would be driven into bankruptcy as the Great Slump of the 1920's gradually deepened into a Great Depression.

They called it 'The Great Betrayal', but the truth was more complex.

The Selborne Report 1918 designed an agricultural policy for the post-war years based on guaranteed prices, citing the value to the nation of a stable and efficient agriculture, less dependence upon imported food, a buoyant rural sector, wider employment, discouraging the "drift from the land" and the social solidarity of a land fit for heroes.

The problem was that many farmers turned out to be unenthusiastic about a national agricultural policy, if it meant accepting State control along with State support. The Selborne Report sketched a radical view of British agriculture that swept away short term tenancies, low wages and inadequate methods, and proposed instead long term tenancies, fixed rents, wages boards, national cropping plans, and powers to replace incompetent farmers with better ones.

This was the first truly comprehensive British agricultural policy, and it foundered upon farmers' reluctance to accept farm labourers sitting as their equals on committees to enforce decent wages, the reversal of the pre-war balance of power between employers and employed, a national plan for agricultural production, and the regular supervision of all farms and estates through permanent committees of the ablest farmers.

In truth, British farmers preferred to remain "practical men who practised the errors of their forefathers" rather than be eliminated in favour of young men with a scientific training and the ability to calculate their costs of production.

Their reluctance sank the first comprehensive proposal at a British agricultural policy, and deprived historians of a chance of seeing how a UK government might reconcile a well-paid rural workforce, higher profits for farmers, and food prices acceptable to the urban electorate in peacetime.

A hundred years later, we are still waiting.
 

Sonoftheheir

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
West Suffolk
My great great Grandfather and great Grandfather bought our place in 1919 with a mortgage from Lloyd’s. I very much admire how they managed to do it as they would have been paying it off the the 20’s and 30’s.

Grandad told me one year the wheat they sold only just paid for the seed.

They were pretty frugal with money (they had to be) they only had a motor bike and side car while my grandad was a child. They then moved up to an Austin 7, which they kept for 18 years.
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
There are many lessons in history and certainly truisms from expressions of experiences past.
However, the world, its politics, its populace and trading is so different today with technological progress that to look back to the 1920's in order to form strategy and plans from lessons of history is ludicrous and I believe pointless.
Not only have the goal posts moved, the game is being played in a different county under completely different rules, almost so much the game becomes unrecognisable from its origin.
On another thread we have the great 'sub' debate and folk deluded enough to think 'they' are nobly feeding the masses and need protecting to do so because of U boats in the channel.
Look forward @Walterp not back, otherwise the race will be on its second or third lap before you've heard the staters gun.
 

Walterp

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Look forward @Walterp not back, otherwise the race will be on its second or third lap before you've heard the staters gun.
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)

Only on TFF can one find people prepared to say that history offers no lessons, which says rather more about them than about history.

To pluck out one example (from a myriad that suggest themselves) - just a slight understanding of the violence of recent European history would disabuse any rational person of the notion that German industry would petition the Council of Ministers to favour the UK instead of buttressing European solidarity.

That farmers can be found who still support this notion - even after repeated proofs that it is (and always was) a foolish proposition - merely proves that they are zealots.

Santayana also helps explain why societies that are poor at literacy and numeracy (such as the UK and the USA) are so juvenile in their politics and economics - "when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual."
 
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Pilgrimmick

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Location
Argyll
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." (George Santayana)

Only on TFF can one find people prepared to say that history offers no lessons, which says rather more about them than about history.
History gives us great lessons and we forget them at our peril, but they are only guidance for the future as situations evolve and change.
However few things are entirely new, so use the maxim:
Only a fool learns from his mistakes
A wise man learns from the mistakes of others!
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Hi @Walterp, re read the post.
Don't think there was any suggestion that history offer no lessons.
Methinks you may be a tad pompous in your opinion, so much so, you overlook the points made.
Keep on pontificating your wisdom.
I'll look for a future whilst you unravel the past.
 

Walterp

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Location
Pembrokeshire
Hi @Walterp, re read the post.
Don't think there was any suggestion that history offer no lessons.
Methinks you may be a tad pompous in your opinion, so much so, you overlook the points made.
Keep on pontificating your wisdom.
I'll look for a future whilst you unravel the past.
Actually I looked quite hard for any original thought or fresh insight before I responded, but sadly could find only clichés and soundbites, borrowed from the popular Press.

There was not a single fresh thought in the entire post - remarkable for its vacuuity, if not its politeness.

Are you sure you're a doctor?
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Very sure.
Spent a good few years in tertiary education and bugger me ended in a PhD.
Are you sure of the intellect you aspire to?
Thanks Walt, you're a giant!
 

Walterp

Member
Location
Pembrokeshire
Very sure.
Spent a good few years in tertiary education and bugger me ended in a PhD.
Are you sure of the intellect you aspire to?
Thanks Walt, you're a giant!
No, I'm hardly ever sure of anything.

But I am sure you need to work on your style: excise the verbiage, stop relying on clichés, be more polite.

So you're not a real doctor, then?
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Real doctors are PhD.
The others are curtesy titles to MB BS, BDS or BVM&S graduates in this country.
The title is to do with education rather than any medical context. I thought a fella of your implied education would know all this bumph.
 

Doc

Member
Livestock Farmer
For the record, I choose Doc Green as a tag but somehow ended up with just the Doc.
Couldn't change it. I prefer an anonymity on forums. Apologies for the verbiage!
 

Pasty

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Location
Devon
Some folk on TFF can never accept that they are just plain wrong. Just fire out statements and then once they are proved wrong, ignore that thread forever and start another one. I think it's just a wind up or some bizarre fantasy existence to be honest. It's quite amusing to watch.
 

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