The Ineos Grenadier thread

[David.]

How much would a Toyota Landcruiser 70 be, by the time it was here and road registered?

 

[RJ1]

I spoke to them today at LAMMA and they said that they hadn't really considered the commercial market in development, so sadly it sounds like it will remain more in the category of rich man's toy than working vehicle. Interestingly I had read a military equipment blog which said that they were most likely to fail there due to the high kerb weight although for military applications they might remove items like door bars to reduce kerb weight.

That's astounding. Surely not right?

 

[Cowabunga]

How much would a Toyota Landcruiser 70 be, by the time it was here and road registered?

It is not legally compliant in any production version so the question is irrelevant.

 

[David.]

Well I'm not 100% certain of the model number, it is true, but i can tell you there is a fencing gang locally using a newish looking tray back version on the road.

 

[CPF]

Well I'm not 100% certain of the model number, it is true, but i can tell you there is a fencing gang locally using a newish looking tray back version on the road.

David , you can import them in the uk

 

[CPF]

Over here sale for 65k depending on which model you would like. importer in the uk would be around 100 k mark? You get V8 turbo D 4.5 L and about 268 hp and a payload of 1.4T and 3.5 T towing

 

[Cowabunga]

Over here sale for 65k depending on which model you would like. importer in the uk would be around 100 k mark? You get V8 turbo D 4.5 L and about 268 hp and a payload of 1.4T and 3.5 T towingView attachment 1034086

How do they get around the UK and EU emissions regulations that will surely require them to be fitted with Adblue and soot filter?

 

[CPF]

How do they get around the UK and EU emissions regulations that will surely require them to be fitted with Adblue and soot filter?

Better if you ask the importer that question.

 

[oil barron]

I don’t understand why the dirt-cheap and crude exterior door hinges are fitted to modern vehicles. They are prone to excessive dirt and moisture ingress and the resultant wear or seizure. They are not a feature of either rugged ability or quality construction, only of cheap 1940’s design and build quality where modern machine tools were at a premium and body gaps were massive and variable and people really didn’t know better.

It’s an American thing so you can take the doors off to go rock scrambling. It’s a huge market which is dominated by the Jeep Wrangler, but the ford Bronco is aimed at and I think Ineos have their eye on it as well.

 

[Cowabunga]

It’s an American thing so you can take the doors off to go rock scrambling. It’s a huge market which is dominated by the Jeep Wrangler, but the ford Bronco is aimed at and I think Ineos have their eye on it as well.

The Wrangler has lift off hinges though. The Defender never had that since the SeriesII and neither has the Grenadier. Besides which an internal hinge could just as easily be designed to have a removable hinge pin I imagine.

 

[Cowabunga]

Better if you ask the importer that question.

I don’t think they can. Importing an American pickup would be a piece of cake compared with one of these, because new US market vehicles will comply with equivalent EU regs from the factory. The Toyota does not and isn’t built in that form as far as I know. It is built as a right hand drive though, which is great.

 

[Lowland1]

How much would a Toyota Landcruiser 70 be, by the time it was here and road registered?

We paid £33,000 for one last year. They last for ever but are incredibly uncomfortable however my daughter won't drive anything else because she thinks it's the coolest. We have a other that's 10 years old and has done about 350,000 kms without touching the engine and that's with several uncareful drivers. I'm pretty sure you could import them into UK but don't tell my daughter.

 

[CPF]

We paid £33,000 for one last year. They last for ever but are incredibly uncomfortable however my daughter won't drive anything else because she thinks it's the coolest. We have a other that's 10 years old and has done about 350,000 kms without touching the engine and that's with several uncareful drivers. I'm pretty sure you could import them into UK but don't tell my daughter.

Would you like imports details in the uk .

 

[Lowland1]

Would you like imports details in the uk .

No.

 

[Lowland1]

Over here sale for 65k depending on which model you would like. importer in the uk would be around 100 k mark? You get V8 turbo D 4.5 L and about 268 hp and a payload of 1.4T and 3.5 T towingView attachment 1034086

Ours are a bit poverty spec by comparison. 4.2l 6 cylinder engines and no diff lock .But half the price.

 

[David.]

I thought Aus prices were a bit pepper, tbh.
Time they get to UK they would be too dear for a rough ride, however reliable, I think.

 

[Still Farming]

3 ltrs BMW diesel or Petrol versions NO Electric?

 

[Robt]

I still genuinely can’t see how this will ever sell. It’s been in design how many years 7 ,8? So that 7 years with zero income coming into the project other than investment. Those investors will want their cash back pretty soon. Yes the owner my be very very wealthy but even wealthy people aren’t stupid so unless they have an order fully signed and a deposit paid upfront from the British army for 15,000, the French army for 20,000 etc… I just can’t see it selling. Utility companies procure vehicles at very very good prices and want them now not in perhaps another 2 years. Mitsubishi, Nissan and a few others have or are leaving the uk market place for utility vehicles but the world market is huge and I just can’t see how they will crack that. Will this ever be anything other than an odd looking play thing for the Uber rich to say they are cool? Bu haven’t the Uber rich all gone or are going electric now?

 

[Lowland1]

I still genuinely can’t see how this will ever sell. It’s been in design how many years 7 ,8? So that 7 years with zero income coming into the project other than investment. Those investors will want their cash back pretty soon. Yes the owner my be very very wealthy but even wealthy people aren’t stupid so unless they have an order fully signed and a deposit paid upfront from the British army for 15,000, the French army for 20,000 etc… I just can’t see it selling. Utility companies procure vehicles at very very good prices and want them now not in perhaps another 2 years. Mitsubishi, Nissan and a few others have or are leaving the uk market place for utility vehicles but the world market is huge and I just can’t see how they will crack that. Will this ever be anything other than an odd looking play thing for the Uber rich to say they are cool? Bu haven’t the Uber rich all gone or are going electric now?

The bloke just put in a 4.25 billion bid for Chelsea. He’s living in a different world it’s really a vanity project.

 

[Robt]

The bloke just put in a 4.25 billion bid for Chelsea. He’s living in a different world it’s really a vanity project.

Yes a vanity project but you don’t get that wealthy by wasting money. Sooner or later he or his advisors will tell him to pull the plug. I can’t see what it’ll do over and above a landrover defender