The motors you miss.

Hilly

Member
For me I have had no better motor than my Daihatsu 4trak, why were these things allowed to be discontinued.
The only off roader I ever was in as good as it was an old Subaru forester we used for going round parks at home,
So anyone else miss the old 4 tracks?
Yes , we had a few few over the years shame nonmake them anymore , wish i had kept a swb one and just spent on keeping it good , thats what im doimg with my defender stopped them as well , least i have one out of two and defender probably easier to keep running .
 

JockCroft

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
JanDeGrootLand
Reminising with a friend a few weeks ago. In very early 80's I had a Ford P100 (Cortina based) pick up, He had a Peugeot 504 pick up. His was diesel and I was quite envious of that as that is when diesel became recognised as much more economic to use.
They were only 2 wheel drive so didn't go off road unless you knew it was dry. Had Car Comfort to drive. Carried a ton. Easy load height for loading/unloading. This he was comparing to a new truck he has, so high. Smaller load space and so easily dented.

We towed trailers with them, maybe not a large as todays and certainly not as fast.
Why is there no equivolent today, although we conclude tat maybe a new version of the Subaru pick up is what we want.
 

Hilly

Member
Reminising with a friend a few weeks ago. In very early 80's I had a Ford P100 (Cortina based) pick up, He had a Peugeot 504 pick up. His was diesel and I was quite envious of that as that is when diesel became recognised as much more economic to use.
They were only 2 wheel drive so didn't go off road unless you knew it was dry. Had Car Comfort to drive. Carried a ton. Easy load height for loading/unloading. This he was comparing to a new truck he has, so high. Smaller load space and so easily dented.

We towed trailers with them, maybe not a large as todays and certainly not as fast.
Why is there no equivolent today, although we conclude tat maybe a new version of the Subaru pick up is what we want.
Knew a fella had a p100 for years did him very well , brother had a peugeot 504 pickup , had horrendous engine problems over the years , they looked really good tho .
 

Muddyroads

Member
NFFN Member
Location
Exeter, Devon
We had a Renault 4L as a runabout, not greatly practical but would plug its way through mud like no other car. Best thing was if it did get stuck you could push it out alone. Anyone have a Citroen 2 CV?.
We had a couple of 2CV’s as runaround’s on a farm I did my sandwich year on. Incredible where they’d go and the suspension meant that the faster you drove the smoother the ride.
 

Willie adie

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I remember my 4trak had an issue where the wiring was shorting out, I was repaired with a section of alkathene pipe,
A simple cheap fix, other good thing was the 4traks despite being Japanese were simple to work on and not too technically advanced,
They weren't built for speed, heat or comfort either
 

Paddington

Member
Location
Soggy Shropshire
2 Door Range Rover Classic, a proper utility vehicle not like the modern gin palaces and years ahead of its time. Easy to work on and any garage could help you out (try that with a new Defender). Been watching Andrew St Pierre White drive his along the Canning Stock trail complete with teddy bear trim and the knack of closing the rear tailgate that only an owner knows. Endless rust and electrics by Lucas meant there was always something to do at weekends.
 

ford 7810

Member
Location
cumbria
Reminising with a friend a few weeks ago. In very early 80's I had a Ford P100 (Cortina based) pick up, He had a Peugeot 504 pick up. His was diesel and I was quite envious of that as that is when diesel became recognised as much more economic to use.
They were only 2 wheel drive so didn't go off road unless you knew it was dry. Had Car Comfort to drive. Carried a ton. Easy load height for loading/unloading. This he was comparing to a new truck he has, so high. Smaller load space and so easily dented.

We towed trailers with them, maybe not a large as todays and certainly not as fast.
Why is there no equivolent today, although we conclude tat maybe a new version of the Subaru pick up is what we want.
Father had Peugeot (puget)petrol we laughed when he bought it you would see him shifting the electric fence flying around in reverse because i gripped better going backwards. But could pass 90 Land Rovers on way to Carlisle with fat cattle on a Monday
 

Hilly

Member
2 Door Range Rover Classic, a proper utility vehicle not like the modern gin palaces and years ahead of its time. Easy to work on and any garage could help you out (try that with a new Defender). Been watching Andrew St Pierre White drive his along the Canning Stock trail complete with teddy bear trim and the knack of closing the rear tailgate that only an owner knows. Endless rust and electrics by Lucas meant there was always something to do at weekends.
My dad owned several rangrovers , its developed an internal hatred of them within me and i haven’t even owned one 😂 jesus they can cause so issues when they start breaking , my dad had one when inwas born first car i ever traveled in on way home from the hospital 😂 😂 first model they made and he sold it at 3 year old for more than he paid but the tax man took most of that he sued to say .. 😂
 

toquark

Member
1997 Mk1 Subaru forester. Brilliant car: rapid, reliable, go anywhere. Decades ahead of its time, though maybe couldn’t described as pretty, it was a great motor which coped well with an Aberdeenshire winter.
 

bluebell

Member
My first car, a 1972 MK3 cortinia 1600gt, bought it for £350. off a fella, that was working at the then ford tractor plant basildon, in 1981, tried to get him at the time to get us a "cheap" ford tractor, going back to that car, what a car, ford certainly got it right back then with the cortinia, capri, escort, styling, paint colours, my one was "flaming orange", standard black bucket high seats centril consol with gauges, run that for a few years "into the ground" drivers door rusted off held that on with a belt, got a second hand door from a breakers?
 

yoki

Member
other good thing was the 4traks despite being Japanese were simple to work on and not too technically advanced,
The Japanese earned their reputation for complexity when their stuff was being compared with Marinas, Chevettes, and Escorts.

Nowadays in a lot of things you look to the Japanese for relative simplicity.

If you want a pro-quality chainsaw for example, both Stihl and Husqvarna have autotune, dealer service only! Shindaiwa (sold here as Echo) are about your only option for bomb proof build and old school carburetor.
 

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