A.P.N Somerset
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Currently studying a module at Uni, what policies to change or create for post-brexit AG. Interested to hear what the rest of the farming community has to say.
The Real Issues with Current Agricultural Policy?
- Thread starter A.P.N Somerset
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Honest first thought?
I'd like to hear what your thoughts are and also to see that you've reviewed and considered the massive content on Brexit and Politics section already posted
I'd like to hear what your thoughts are and also to see that you've reviewed and considered the massive content on Brexit and Politics section already posted
A.P.N Somerset
Member
My thoughts are this:
- There should be grants and funding available for young entrants into the farming industry, to attract fresh talent and push out inefficient farming.
- Raising awareness for Agriculture in the UK population, where, how, what and why.
- Introducing agriculture/food production into the syllabus at secondary schools, or at least suggest the industry.
- Keeping a good trade partnership with the EU, for imports and exports.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
Interesting.
- Share farming / changes to land tenure and taxation have been discussed ad nauseum for 30 + years , certainly before Brexit. I don't see that happening any time soon (I'm no longer a Young Farmer and probably should have gone to France or NZ when the exchange rate was better for me and I was younger!)
- If I speak with my Brother who is a business unit Vice Chairman of a WPP Company (advertising), he'll likely conclude that your Waitrose / Countryfile premium and concerned consumer is probably aware and at the max % of likely consumer spend now, a few more % will be swayed with red tractor / Union jack logos or buy in reaction to campaigns highlighting halal, higher welfare, provenance, country environment etc (but not many) and the most are up against it with budget and will vote with their wallet in the supermarket
- I actually went to a London overspill new town Comp where they had a rural studies department and , at the time the Times Educational Supplement had vacancies all over the country for rural studies . With the pressure on the expanded core curriculum, the educational blob and the lack of imagination and budget, you can forget that, laudable though it might be, Basic compulsory cooking skills should be taught in schools as many of their mothers cannot cook from fresh and this would help with the Nation's health as well as understanding of the countryside. I doubt it will get past first base.
- You'd be in the minority on here with point 4. The ardent Brexit lot will call us both buttercups and suck it up despite the 420,000t of sheep meat going to France annually at the moment . As the former Foreign Secretary famously espoused " Fk business"
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- Location
- Cumbria
Not sure how you do it, but farmland needs to be there for farmers either freehold or decent tenancies. Land shouldn’t be used for quasi conservation bodies to cream off subsidy to support inefficient/ineffective charitable activities or for the Uber rich to use as a tax vehicle. Farmland for farmers first and foremost.
A.P.N Somerset
Member
Completely agree, thanks.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk
You live and farm in a beautiful and rural part of the World. So much land even around me and certainly in the SE is farmed to keep things looking nice but under massive pressure from all and sundry. I never thought, for example, in my rural bit of West Suffolk I'd see so much new housing and industrial (well warehousing)
blacksheepcontracting
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- Location
- Ceredigion, Wales
Area payments lead to a large part of budget ending up in the wrong hands (1/3 of payment ends up in the hands of the retired in Spain for example). These subsidy mechanisms cause market distortion which affect trading with the rest of the world.
It’s very slow to reform and is incredibly bureaucratic
Post Brexit Ag policy should provide risk management tools from the state that counter market volatility and severe weather events in the form of insurance and should encourage forward selling/futures contracts and best practice.
The government should realise the value of British agriculture and protect it from sub-standard competition (cheaper) from abroad and instead focus on helping farmers meet domestic demand (which we are remarkably close in most commodities). The shortfall should be made up by reduced tariff access from selected countries with similar production standards.
The state should support young farmers by offering a cash advance on their crop (wheat, lamb, milk etc) of 70% year 1, 50% year 2 and 30% year 3 on proof of acces to land (fbt or appropriate) to allow them to buy inputs and/or purchase stock
These are my views anyway.
It’s very slow to reform and is incredibly bureaucratic
Post Brexit Ag policy should provide risk management tools from the state that counter market volatility and severe weather events in the form of insurance and should encourage forward selling/futures contracts and best practice.
The government should realise the value of British agriculture and protect it from sub-standard competition (cheaper) from abroad and instead focus on helping farmers meet domestic demand (which we are remarkably close in most commodities). The shortfall should be made up by reduced tariff access from selected countries with similar production standards.
The state should support young farmers by offering a cash advance on their crop (wheat, lamb, milk etc) of 70% year 1, 50% year 2 and 30% year 3 on proof of acces to land (fbt or appropriate) to allow them to buy inputs and/or purchase stock
These are my views anyway.
kfpben
Member
- Location
- Mid Hampshire
An immediate cut in payment for any farmer found being a miserable, moaning bugger and expecting the government to owe him a living.
10% for the first moan, rising for subsequent offences.
10% for the first moan, rising for subsequent offences.
yellow belly
Member
- Location
- south west lincolnshire
The question /uncertainty is the level of import duty on food coming into the U.K. that uses technology that is banned from being used by U.K. farmers
That is
Gm foods maize soyabeans oil seeds all imported now and consumed in the U.K.
maize has an import duty not w
Chemicals now banned in the U.K. neonictinoid seed protection and other herbicide we have banned
If we are free import we need not worry about new entrants as they will not make any profit above environentle payments unless they sell direct if that gets over done
That is
Gm foods maize soyabeans oil seeds all imported now and consumed in the U.K.
maize has an import duty not w
Chemicals now banned in the U.K. neonictinoid seed protection and other herbicide we have banned
If we are free import we need not worry about new entrants as they will not make any profit above environentle payments unless they sell direct if that gets over done
- Location
- Cumbria
I don’t really have an issue with new housing and land use change per se, it’s more the pretend farmers I take issue with.
It could be argued that large parts of cumbria, i.e. the Lake District are farmed to make it look nice - it’s certainly questionable in many cases that the farming makes economic sense. As such are these guys pretend farmers?
- Location
- Ceredigion