The war in Ukraine...

[BrianV]

Inflated prices? I thought you said cut price.

Do you think Western governments would allow imports of goods produced in factories seized from their companies?

Do you mean like BP’s £16 billion right off Russian oil flogged to India & then sold back to us at inflated prices, course not!

 

[David1968]

Do you mean like BP’s £16 billion right off Russian oil flogged to India & then sold back to us at inflated prices, course not!

Were the BP assets seized?

 

[BrianV]

Were the BP assets seized?

Nobody would buy them so they had to walk away & right it off, mind you it probably saved them a fortune on UK tax

 

[David1968]

Nobody would buy them so they had to walk away & right it off, mind you it probably saved them a fortune on UK tax

So, false equivalence?

Both in circumstance and nature of the goods (raw materials v manufactured goods)

 

[Hindsight]

Russia? more like the rest of the world if the price is right & they will sell it to us at inflated prices

Which currency will these other world countries require in payment Brian?

 

[Henarar]

If I was on holiday ,I would be enjoying myself ,not trying to wind up people on an internet forum

I take it from that that you are not on holiday

 

[BrianV]

Best be prepared as they say in the scouts, although I don't really see it happening unless the Russians start losing badly.

17:0208.09.2023

Zelenskyy: Putin to 'scare' world with use of nuclear weapons​

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[Mr Mackay]

Best be prepared as they say in the scouts, although I don't really see it happening unless the Russians start losing badly.

17:0208.09.2023

Zelenskyy: Putin to 'scare' world with use of nuclear weapons​

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Your worst nightmare Brian - never mind ,the bunkers right by you

 

[BrianV]

Paranoia starting to creep in or for real.

UN conducts secret negotiations with Russia on lifting all major sanctions in exchange for grain deal​

"ECONOMICHNA PRAVDA" — FRIDAY, 8 SEPTEMBER 2023, 14:42

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[its yourself]

Paranoia starting to creep in or for real.

UN conducts secret negotiations with Russia on lifting all major sanctions in exchange for grain deal​

"ECONOMICHNA PRAVDA" — FRIDAY, 8 SEPTEMBER 2023, 14:42

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The UN isn't exactly a force for good these days.
Mores the pity.

 

[Danllan]

The UN isn't exactly a force for good these days.
Mores the pity.

For some time I have been giving this thought and, despite what I guess are hopes for it shared by most others, the conclusion is that it is not functioning and can not function as it should. There are two dictatorships with a permanent veto, this means that anything promoting democracy and free-societies can never expect genuine support from the UN.

I've come to the conclusion that, although I would not like to see the UN done away with (because it could be a great thing), the best thing would be to have a new organisation established which only allows membership to fee democracies. Associate membership could be for those countries genuinely working toward such things, but any autocracy, theocracy, dictatorship or the like would be excluded.

But what's the point, what does / can the UN do that can't be assumed by already existing org's?

Yet it really, really annoys me to see the likes of Russia and China able to veto good things on a whim.

 

[Old apprentice]

For some time I have been giving this thought and, despite what I guess are hopes for it shared by most others, the conclusion is that it is not functioning and can not function as it should. There are two dictatorships with a permanent veto, this means that anything promoting democracy and free-societies can never expect genuine support from the UN.

I've come to the conclusion that, although I would not like to see the UN done away with (because it could be a great thing), the best thing would be to have a new organisation established which only allows membership to fee democracies. Associate membership could be for those countries genuinely working toward such things, but any autocracy, theocracy, dictatorship or the like would be excluded.

But what's the point, what does / can the UN do that can't be assumed by already existing org's?

Yet it really, really annoys me to see the likes of Russia and China able to veto good things on a whim.

It is still based on the end of the second world war there should be changed to that as you say.

 

[BrianV]

Ukraine has Biden by the short & curlies, Biden & Trump the best that America can do

Despite Biden’s claim, Europeans WEREN’T trying to oust Ukraine prosecutor targeting Hunter’s firm

The European Commission praised Ukraine’s Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin for his efforts to fight corruption in a December 2015 progress report published nine days after then-VP Joe Biden demande…

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[Mr Mackay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700099744016592946

 

[Mr Mackay]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700055140688887868

 

[arcobob]

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I hate Elon Musk. How does he have the nerve to suggest to Ukrainian youth that they should accept Russian rule? Elon Musk is on;y interested in Elon Musk and as a stock market investor I have formed this opinion over time.

 

[arcobob]

Big mistake to think the Chinese are daft & aren't using this war to their own advantage whilst learning many lessons along the way.

The Chinese are certainly not daft but they are untrustworthy as business partners.

 

[arcobob]

Bugger, wife saw your post & said “right let’s go for a stroll in the mountains,”

They say that the north face of the Eiger is an easy climb.

 

[arcobob]

Nobody would buy them so they had to walk away & right it off, mind you it probably saved them a fortune on UK tax

Like your opinions, RiGHT off.

 

[arcobob]

I take it from that that you are not on holiday

Only farming is one big holiday.