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nelly55

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Anyone posted a comment on her fb page as she clearly is supporting non stun,and has little understanding of the issues relating to animal welfare only votes
 

Formatted

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Sure she is a nice human being; Michael Gove was great because he listened and had years to build up experience. TV is being asked to deliver the biggest change in agriculture since the 1940's and doesn't have the time or the capacity to learn everything she needs.
 

nelly55

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Yorkshire
Well make time,Its our livelihoods and one wrong move won’t affect her pension.Infact why not put someone in any office who knows the job inside out that they are minister for.Rather than constantly relying on advisors.Get rid of subs,leave EU gravy train and make food more expensive in line with production costs.Thank goodness my farming days are nearer retirement than battling who shouts loudest
 

farmerm

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Shropshire
Well make time,Its our livelihoods and one wrong move won’t affect her pension.Infact why not put someone in any office who knows the job inside out that they are minister for.Rather than constantly relying on advisors.Get rid of subs,leave EU gravy train and make food more expensive in line with production costs.Thank goodness my farming days are nearer retirement than battling who shouts loudest
:rolleyes: You have been well and truly suckered chap! Do you not yet understand that the Brexit believers plan is to rid of subs and make food cheaper by importing more, tariff free from the rest of the world. Allowing food prices to increase disproportionally affects the less affluent who spend the greatest proportion of their income of food, result is increased poverty, rioting and the suicide of the political party that allows it to happen. As attractive as the idea of sub free farming with fair pricing of produce is, it just isn't going to be a great reality. Can you not see that removing subs from British farmers will in no way be compensated for by an increase in farmgate values in a global food market, especially whilst our nearest neighbours continue to receive BPS. Even if all producers in the UK go out of business, the effect on global food prices would be tiny. Most retailers don't care a jot where their goods originate as long as they are the cheap. As a ballpark guide I need an extra £50/T for cereals and £40/head to lambs to make up the current value of our BPS cheque.
 
:rolleyes: You have been well and truly suckered chap! Do you not yet understand that the Brexit believers plan is to rid of subs and make food cheaper by importing more, tariff free from the rest of the world. Allowing food prices to increase disproportionally affects the less affluent who spend the greatest proportion of their income of food, result is increased poverty, rioting and the suicide of the political party that allows it to happen. As attractive as the idea of sub free farming with fair pricing of produce is, it just isn't going to be a great reality. Can you not see that removing subs from British farmers will in no way be compensated for by an increase in farmgate values in a global food market, especially whilst our nearest neighbours continue to receive BPS. Even if all producers in the UK go out of business, the effect on global food prices would be tiny. Most retailers don't care a jot where their goods originate as long as they are the cheap. As a ballpark guide I need an extra £50/T for cereals and £40/head to lambs to make up the current value of our BPS cheque.
Hang on a minute, BPS is approx £80 an acre, if you need an extra £50 ton to make up for it’s loss you must be averaging little over 1.5 ton acre or 2 lambs per acre,
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
Hang on a minute, BPS is approx £80 an acre, if you need an extra £50 ton to make up for it’s loss you must be averaging little over 1.5 ton acre or 2 lambs per acre,
Oh don't ruin my point that removal of subs will not be offset by a rise in farmgate price when we operate in a global trading market! Price is determined by supply and demand and removal of subs will do little to change the supply and demand balance unless it results in land coming out of production. You are right though, I was being a total dumb ass and forgot to include the tonnage of Barley and Beans... Wheat, Wheat, Barley, Beans, Wheat, Wheat, Barley, Fallow. average yield over the rotation would be 2.85T/ac So BPS at £80/ac is equivalent for us at £28/ton cereal. 2.5 lambs reared (to fat) per acre, so BPS @£80/ac = £33/head. The permanent pastures are permanent pastures for a reason!
 

farmerm

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Location
Shropshire
What's the calorific value of the average fat lamb and what is it worth if composted or burnt to convert those calories to electricity?
A tiny fraction of the calorific value of the grass they consumed if it was instead cut and digested or burnt..... and ethically rearing livestock to convert into fuel, that would be a whole new can of worms!
 

curlietailz

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Arable Farmer
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Sedgefield
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