Thinking of growing winter beans...

[Selectamatic]

.... but i know nothing about them!

I've got a market for them, and the straw.

I've grown wheat three times on the same piece of land and thought it could do with change / rest. Beans also give the land a bit of nitrogen...

I've got my own kit to do it. Where not talking big acres here...

Where do i start, do's and dont's etc etc etc

Thanks Everyone!

 

[Hampton]

Don’t tramline them, drill at 100kg/acre. Spray a few times. Combine them.
Get a great crop of wheat after them.
Expect around 1.5t/ac, be delighted if you get more than that, don’t compare gross margins to other crops.
Job done

 

[Lincsman]

last week of Oct, Spread on top and plough in shallow and lightly power harrow to level.

 

[Flat 10]

.... but i know nothing about them!

I've got a market for them, and the straw.

I've grown wheat three times on the same piece of land and thought it could do with change / rest. Beans also give the land a bit of nitrogen...

I've got my own kit to do it. Where not talking big acres here...

Where do i start, do's and dont's etc etc etc

Thanks Everyone!

Read the winter bean thread?! pre-em pre-rm pre-em. It’s important.

 

[Gedd]

last week of Oct, Spread on top and plough in shallow and lightly power harrow to level.

Would late
september be ok as we on heavy land when its wet its wet for the winter

 

[Badshot]

Would late
september be ok as we on heavy land when its wet its wet for the winter

In a word
No
They'll get too proud for the winter.

 

[Fish]

Would late
september be ok as we on heavy land when its wet its wet for the winter

The earliest I have drilled w beans is the end of the first week in October, late September might be ok in a Northern high heavy land situation, but don’t drill them thick.

 

[DrWazzock]

We have found spring beans to be 10 times better but we aren’t as far north as some. Plough in the autumn, drill conventionally in the spring. Seem to get less weedy and yield better.

 

[Barleymow]

Spread 2cwt acre , plough ,level the top spray with kerb 2 fungicides simples

 

[bobk]

We have found spring beans to be 10 times better but we aren’t as far north as some. Plough in the autumn, drill conventionally in the spring. Seem to get less weedy and yield better.

How much later are springs

 

[Lincsman]

Would late
september be ok as we on heavy land when its wet its wet for the winter

If its really heavy, plough first in sept.. if you can make lumps bigger than a football.. and get it well dried out, then spread on the ploughing in last week of Oct and power harrow in, they need to be able fall in 5 inches deep on average.

 

[nxy]

Local climate can have a big effect on beans and when/how/if to drill them are you coastal North Wales or half way up a mountain?

 

[T Hectares]

Pre em is essential as there’s nothing for blw in the spring

2 x Azoxy + Teb from early flowering

That’s the basics !

There’s spring graminicides if needed and use some Mn / Mg / sulphur if you’d use them on other crops

That’s about it but if you end up with a weedy mess then pre harvest dessicate as it will save you a world of pain

 

[ollie989898]

last week of Oct, Spread on top and plough in shallow and lightly power harrow to level.

Fudge ploughing for beans.

 

[ollie989898]

.... but i know nothing about them!

I've got a market for them, and the straw.

I've grown wheat three times on the same piece of land and thought it could do with change / rest. Beans also give the land a bit of nitrogen...

I've got my own kit to do it. Where not talking big acres here...

Where do i start, do's and dont's etc etc etc

Thanks Everyone!

In late October, you get a neighbour to direct drill the fudging things into the ground fairly deep. You then apply a pre-em and basically walk away until they pop up later. Around here you can't get on the land into November anyway so they sit looking at you all winter.

In the spring, you get to put on some graminicide, if you get grassweeds that is, so it's easy to remove the odd wild oat or brome.

You then go through the crop with 2 passes of fungicide and probably some manganese or similar.

Depending on the season you can get good yields of 2tonne/acre or more.

Keep it cheap because the yields of beans seem season dependant. Either everyone in the region will get good bean yields or they will be mediocre. So avoid spending shed loads on chemistry.

Beans are an excellent crop for ruminant diets as they contain protein and starch. The straw/haulm is perfectly ok as a starter material for cattle bedding.

 

[robs1]

I'm going to do some this time, they will be dd, which is best simtech at 150 spacing or claydon with bean shoot ?

 

[ollie989898]

I'm going to do some this time, they will be dd, which is best simtech at 150 spacing or claydon with bean shoot ?

I have seen good results with the claydon. The main issue is ensuring you don't end up with too thick a crop as this seems to be detrimental to yield as you end up with very tall plants.
Good stale seedbed behind the combine, leave it to green up, spray off and direct drill the beans in. Pre-em on and the job is largely done unless you are looking into the kerb/crawler thing if these are still even available.

 

[teslacoils]

Fudge ploughing for beans.

Nah get them ploughed down.

 

[ollie989898]

Nah get them ploughed down.

It's more work and leaves the surface rough as fudge.

 

[Fish]

I'm going to do some this time, they will be dd, which is best simtech at 150 spacing or claydon with bean shoot ?

Given that choice of drills, I would use the claydon, give them space, treat them like a row crop, thick bean crops lead to only two things, poor crops and lots of disease.