This isn't going to end well!

Charlie Gill

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Saw this and thought of you... (and a few others too :()

 

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Who does it suit for that document to exist?
Depends whether it’s real or not , is it the only plan , part of a plan , one part of a bigger plan or just a hypothetical solution to a problem , is it easier for the problem to move away rather than killing the problem or is it the usual propaganda of war to get us to turn on the Israelis , could be a lot of reasons to put that out what do you think
 

Lowland1

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Depends whether it’s real or not , is it the only plan , part of a plan , one part of a bigger plan or just a hypothetical solution to a problem , is it easier for the problem to move away rather than killing the problem or is it the usual propaganda of war to get us to turn on the Israelis , could be a lot of reasons to put that out what do you think
There's no propaganda necessary to turn the world against Israel. They are doing a good enough job of that on their own.
 

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There's no propaganda necessary to turn the world against Israel. They are doing a good enough job of that on their own.
There is always propaganda in war it’s one thing to condemn a situation it’s another to take action we are very quick to take action when it suits .
 

hoff135

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scotland
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if the population of gaza was pushed out and headed for Europe and the UK. Seems Israel is entitled to defend its borders but the UK is completely porus.
 

Danllan

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Sir Gar / Carms
Who the hell is killing the thousands in gaza ,
Israel , no one else, the thousands they have killed, have they all been positively identified as hamas and then killed . rubbish .
Are the woman and children all terrorist s.
Israel are no better. You need to stop believing your own crap.
Glad to have that rational analysis, certainly one of your best, well done. Now... tell us why Israel is going in to Gaza now, and tell us they haven't given evacuation notices, and then tell us what Hamas did to reduce civilian casualties during its last attack on Israel...

And then, if you have the moral courage, tell us how Israel can allow any functional existence of Hamas to continue and - assuming you have had the courage to answer that honestly - tell us what they should do now that can guarantee to destroy Hamas as a functional entity, but that can be achieved without any collateral damage.

You write that Israel is '...no better...', yet offer nothing to back that up other than your opinion; cite examples of where Israel has deliberately targeted known locations with no military utility, go on do that. And, just to prove your point, show us the evidence of the Israelis gang-raping in Gaza, massacring families they have tied up, decapitating here and there and / or burning people alive.

Produce all that to back up your claim and, if it proves correct, I will unreservedly admit my being mistaken and will unambiguously condemn Israel. But I think you won't, because you can't - prove me wrong.
 

pgk

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Glad to have that rational analysis, certainly one of your best, well done. Now... tell us why Israel is going in to Gaza now, and tell us they haven't given evacuation notices, and then tell us what Hamas did to reduce civilian casualties during its last attack on Israel...

And then, if you have the moral courage, tell us how Israel can allow any functional existence of Hamas to continue and - assuming you have had the courage to answer that honestly - tell us what they should do now that can guarantee to destroy Hamas as a functional entity, but that can be achieved without any collateral damage.

You write that Israel is '...no better...', yet offer nothing to back that up other than your opinion; cite examples of where Israel has deliberately targeted known locations with no military utility, go on do that. And, just to prove your point, show us the evidence of the Israelis gang-raping in Gaza, massacring families they have tied up, decapitating here and there and / or burning people alive.

Produce all that to back up your claim and, if it proves correct, I will unreservedly admit my being mistaken and will unambiguously condemn Israel. But I think you won't, because you can't - prove me wrong.
And so the Israeli apologist returns🤔 one hope's you and yours are never on the receiving end of those of psychopathic tendencies.
 

Danllan

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And so the Israeli apologist returns🤔 one hope's you and yours are never on the receiving end of those of psychopathic tendencies.
Which is your special code for 'I can't substantiate any of what has been written against Israel, but want to have a dig without admitting it.' Everything I have written can be verified from MSM sources and on social media, meaning all the horrors from Hamas and Israel's efforts to reduce casualties in Gaza.

Back up the claims against Israel, counter my points with hard verifiable fact, or admit you either can't or just can't be bothered to. :chicken:
 

HatsOff

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Hamas could get a ceasefire by releasing the hostages and acknowledging Israel's right to exist.

No-one can defend indiscriminate killing of civilians - it is up to the IDF to consider proportionality, distinction and the other principles of LOAC. If they haven't, then those responsible need to be held to account.
 
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Pie face

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Hamas could get a ceasefire by releasing the hostages and acknowledging Israel's right to exist.

No-one can defend indiscriminate killing of civilians - it is up to the IDF to consider proportionality, distinction and the other principles of LOAC. If they haven't, then those responsible need to be held to account.
Israel turned down an offer to release the hostages.
 

BrianV

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Dartmoor
Glad to have that rational analysis, certainly one of your best, well done. Now... tell us why Israel is going in to Gaza now, and tell us they haven't given evacuation notices, and then tell us what Hamas did to reduce civilian casualties during its last attack on Israel...

And then, if you have the moral courage, tell us how Israel can allow any functional existence of Hamas to continue and - assuming you have had the courage to answer that honestly - tell us what they should do now that can guarantee to destroy Hamas as a functional entity, but that can be achieved without any collateral damage.

You write that Israel is '...no better...', yet offer nothing to back that up other than your opinion; cite examples of where Israel has deliberately targeted known locations with no military utility, go on do that. And, just to prove your point, show us the evidence of the Israelis gang-raping in Gaza, massacring families they have tied up, decapitating here and there and / or burning people alive.

Produce all that to back up your claim and, if it proves correct, I will unreservedly admit my being mistaken and will unambiguously condemn Israel. But I think you won't, because you can't - prove me wrong.
Usual bullish!t, Israel are now no better than the Palestinian terrorists, where exactly are the Palestinians expected to return to if Israel continues to demolish the Palestinian homes & businesses, this is effectively ethnic cleansing of half of Gaza & will lead to Israel becoming an unwanted pariah to most countries in the future.
 

BrianV

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Seems to me 11,000 strikes on Gaza is reminiscent of Second World War bombing & bloody disgusting in this day & age, we in the West are allowing this to happen & should be throughly ashamed.


Jeremy Bowen
International editor, reporting southern Israel

After Israel's strike on the Jabalia refugee camp yesterday, the issue is whether or not it was worth the price - the price being scores of dead Palestinians.
Late last night, I spoke to the surgical director of the local hospital near the camp who said that they received about 400 casualties. Around 120 of them were either dead on arrival or died subsequently very quickly.
Israel says there have been about 11,000 strikes on Gaza since the start of the war. I’m in southern Israel near the border with Gaza, and for days, I’ve been hearing, at times, almost continuous heavy artillery.
You can hear war planes in the sky above racing in for their strikes. When they cross us they are only seconds away from releasing their missiles and hitting Gaza.
The IDF has announced that it has lost 11 of its own men. I think that's a sign of what may lie ahead because they haven't yet tried to enter the really built-up urban areas like Gaza City - which will be a huge military challenge.
The Israeli military is getting close to it, but mostly moving through villages around the city right now.
A few days ago, Hamas ambushed Israeli troops as a convoy entered Gaza. Some men were in what was supposed to be a modern and fairly impregnable troop carrier, which was incinerated by a Russian made anti-tank missile.
 

Lowland1

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Which is your special code for 'I can't substantiate any of what has been written against Israel, but want to have a dig without admitting it.' Everything I have written can be verified from MSM sources and on social media, meaning all the horrors from Hamas and Israel's efforts to reduce casualties in Gaza.

Back up the claims against Israel, counter my points with hard verifiable fact, or admit you either can't or just can't be bothered to. :chicken:
A chicken emoji? Really?
The actions of the Israeli's speak for themselves it's all about revenge. The more they kill the happier it seems they are. Obviously they can’t carpet bomb Gaza much as they like to but in such a densely populated area any bomb will get its intended target plus a few other bonuses. They say they are warning people but all of this has the aim of destroying Gaza and scattering its citizens. The hard facts are the pictures of destruction and the bodies. I’ve never been keen of Israelis and i’m not going to be chasing them through any airport terminals but they and Hamas deserve each other.
 

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