Tine drills on light land

[Tweed]

Hi All
Has anyone used or still using a tine drill on light land such as the KV Evo and the like?
My question on these machines is - can you get even depth of seed from every row? Or does the front rows of seed get extra soil on top of them from the back rows?

 

[Brisel]

You should be able to alter the pitch of the drill so the seed depth is even from both front and back coulters. The trouble with light land is softer ground for the depth wheels. Can you consolidate the ground before the drill? Even a crumbler roller on the back of the last cultivator will help.

Even heavier drills with full width press wheels like the Vaderstad Rapid go deeper on lighter ground.

 

[Still Farming]

Blue clay and dog muck here sorry !

 

[Norfolk Olly]

Our Kuhn would always bury itself on light land regardless of it being pressed infront, ended up carrying the weight with the tractor, seed depth was erratic to say the least, what wasn't scattered on top was buried hence why it's been in the shed since the rapids arrived

 

[Flat 10]

My limited experience of one was a neighbour who tended to bury seed way too deep in his lighter patches....

 

[Mr Charisma]

Used a weaving for the first time in anger this last planting , was to wet at the start of planting so the weaving was hitched up for around half the acreage ,,,,,, I should think I did exactly as you said , buried some of the rows as we had very erratic emergence , not what we are used to anyway , which was a shame as I really wanted the tine drill to work ,,,,, just in the process of buying another vaddy

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

I've seen some very even emergence from Freeflow and Miniflows

 

[R.B.H]

Neighbour has a front press on when drilling light land with a KV Evo, i assume it's to even up the seedbed before drilling. Before then other neighbour used to crop the same land and drill it with a 6m Carier tine drill (not Vaderstad) always use to come and harrow behind it with a 12m set of trailed harrows as i think he always used to lay the seed on top abit

 

[Tweed]

Right then, thanks! I won't be going down that route then. Back to the drawing board!
It's good this forum!!!

 

[Kam]

Consolidation is key. We drill behind a Sumo Quatro with a Kuhn Megant, and don't suffer any emergence issues.

 

[woodylane]

We drill a lot of light ground with a weaving 6m tine still,
No problem here, just light powerharrow or toptilth in front of it

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Have made previously and then run a tine drill at home now for 10 yrs and key is level and firm they don't need the seed bed that a suffolk coulter would by any means but they need abit more than you can get away with with a Vaderstad etc. but where they come into there own is in the wet when the vaderstad won't run any more as they don't maul it in to the same extent as a combi can.

 

[Mr Charisma]

@Bruce Almighty ,,,,,,, @Gruffalo this is /was your sort of territory!!!!!

 

[Flat 10]

We drill a lot of light ground with a weaving 6m tine still,
No problem here, just light powerharrow or toptilth in front of it View attachment 653438
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I think you would get away with an old school 8m accord air drill on there!

 

[robbie]

One farm in the area uses a KV evo, it has very uneven emergence and early post em the crops look awful. They replaced a rapid with it to drill late after spuds and beet.

Another neighbour uses a Kuhn megant with a front press and the crops behind that look good.

When dad used to drill with a carrier he would always roll at least once before drilling, it would then leave the fields like a billiards table and emerge very even.

 

[Brisel]

How do they look later on?

 

[Gruffalo]

We've had a weaving tine drill for 11 yrs and drilled into all sorts with it. It is a bit uneven emerging but usually down to previous cultivation. After a few days of emergence it evens up and not had any major problems. It does seem to drill the rear rows a bit deeper into lighter soils but never an issue.

 

[David.]

KV TS here, as said, secret is firm seedbed; like plough and press on lighter stuff. Sometimes if ploughing muffles and not very level, or on ground that goes hard after rain, a pass of KKK does enough to get good results.
Rolling after drilling helps even up emergence where finished seedbed is uneven in rows due to soil throw off tines.

 

[robbie]

How do they look later on?

The majority looked ok but nothing special especially compared to vaddy or combi. I have seen some very ropey looking spring barley where several 18 inch bouts across the drill width never came up.

 

[Bruce Almighty]

@Mr Charisma the only problems we've had with our Weaving drill have been drilling rape too deep (we now sow it with a subsoiler & the yield has gone up at least 5 cwt/ac ) and grass seeds - also too deep

Cereals on light land, no problems, it evens itself up within a day or two & we always roll afterwards