Say you Mr "England no one wears"I agree... I hear all sorts of stories from my Nurse Missus,.
To mask up or not?
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Say you Mr "England no one wears"I agree... I hear all sorts of stories from my Nurse Missus,.
a close relative has a child in school.kept child home duo to suspected covid.parent had a bolloking off school as was told that if child has covid then to say nothing to other parents and keep sending child to school.if they tell someone then they have to keep the child home.it just totaly nuts.when others then questioned it,school had no comments. 
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I've asked you two in this thread - one in post 78 and one in post 125.
quavers
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this is why the main reason that covid cases are rising up here , kids taking it home from school who do not have to isolate if there mates have covid and they have had close contact , just recovering from covid myself and was really ill in bed for a couple of weeks before i even started to recover , got it from my son . wife was ill for a couple of days but has now got really high blood pressure as has her brother who was picked up at medical and the medic told him it can be after covid . Have not read most of the tread but some people are getting really ill with covid and people are getting a bit to flippant with it . I was double jabbeda close relative has a child in school.kept child home duo to suspected covid.parent had a bolloking off school as was told that if child has covid then to say nothing to other parents and keep sending child to school.if they tell someone then they have to keep the child home.it just totaly nuts.when others then questioned it,school had no comments.
SilliamWhale
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125 was a question you said you wanted to ask. You didn't ask me anything.
78 I've told you. More people over 75 who have died with covid with two vaxs than those with no vaccine in absolute terms
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I agree... I hear all sorts of stories from my Nurse Missus,.
But mask I hate them ,you can't see people smiling and it's COVID in your face all the time , how many are sick today with cancer
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Cant be many over 75 that have not had two vaxs so can't see your point
Mr Mackay
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Exactly what I thought!
Suprised to see this sort of thread in Agricultural Matters.
All the loons are usually on corvid forum
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Plus no offence to those over 75 but generally they have an overall higher morbidity than those under 75.
SilliamWhale
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The point is that is not the unvaccinated driving the majority of deaths.
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Local hospital has reintroduced a no visitors rule. This isn't particularly due to people having covid but the hospital is over full due to all the people that haven't been able to see a doctor being so ill with non covid problems now that when they do see a consultant they need to be kept in. Hospital claims it is covid but have been told different by folk on the inside.
Puzzles me having no visitors because the visitors do a great deal of the work the patients need, clean clothes, feeding, cleaning and tidying around the patient etc.
Puzzles me having no visitors because the visitors do a great deal of the work the patients need, clean clothes, feeding, cleaning and tidying around the patient etc.
Mr Mackay
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Was in Orthapedic last week
No visitors there
SilliamWhale
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But there is still a narrative that covid is an equal risk to everyone and it's not and never was. Vaccinated or not.
Tell me the logic of having a vaccine passport or forcing people to be vaccinated?
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Most of the unvaccinated are young or not at risk so that's understandable, I know plenty who have had COVID who are convinced they would be gone if they had not had the vaccine, I would sooner take my chances with the vaccine than without
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#78. I'll try again. Do you have evidence to support your claim that "a huge number of people who have been wearing masks and had two vaccines are dying within 28 days of a positive covid test?"
#125. A childish swerve on your part but I'll rephrase: You've suggested I could claim that "a grossly disproportionate number of people over the aged of 75 who have been double vaxxed have died with covid". Against which alternative group of people are you suggesting that the over 75 double vaccinated are disproportionately dying?
#125. A childish swerve on your part but I'll rephrase: You've suggested I could claim that "a grossly disproportionate number of people over the aged of 75 who have been double vaxxed have died with covid". Against which alternative group of people are you suggesting that the over 75 double vaccinated are disproportionately dying?
SilliamWhale
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In response to the claim that a disproportionate amount of people in hospital are unvaccinated.
SilliamWhale
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More vaccinated people are dying than unvaccinated thats's what I said. . No doubt about it. Im astonished you think it's not the case. And in the future even more double vaxxed will die. It's obvious because the virus is still spreading.
I'm not anti Vax (esp for the old and vulnerable it clearly has a role even if we are not certain of it long term) it's just obvious this is the case. Go look at the data yourself.
The unvaccinated are not the drivers of the death statistics at all. I was reading the other day that you are 124% more likely to die if vaccinated than unvaccinated according to evolving stats
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3.Weekly mortality rates for deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19) by vaccination status
Figure 1: Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths involving COVID-19 are consistently lower for people who have received two vaccinations
Weekly age-standardised mortality rates for deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England, deaths occurring between Week 1 (week ending 8 January 2021) and Week 38 (week ending 24 September 2021)
Source ONS
As far as I am aware no one is being forced they still have a choice it maybe between stay at their current job or not but it is still their choice just the same as surgeons have been faced with for decades be vaccinated against diseases such Hepatitis C or don't work as a surgeon in most developed countries.
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Correct - asymptomatic transmission is - or else you wouldn't see what's happening in the UK being replicated in cases/deaths all over the globe, where all the "flatten the curve" strategies are different. It can't really be otherwise.
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Backdoor ID system maybe. Dunno but I do think it is quite wrong.
Forcing or even just coercing people to have the vaccine is plain wrong. It doesn't stop you catching covid or spreading it, it does seem to do a good job of stopping you getting seriously ill if you are in the vulnerable section of society. Your choice should be based on that and I emphasise the "your choice" bit.