Townies idea of PDing

[Radio]

Daughter talking to friends and said next day she was going to help her boyfriend PD some cows , after a silence one said it must be difficult getting them to pee on a stick !

 

[Henarar]

Daughter talking to friends and said next day she was going to help her boyfriend PD some cows , after a silence one said it must be difficult getting them to pee on a stick !

and what did they think when she told them how it was done

 

[Agrispeed]

and what did they think when she told them how it was done

`Probably walking a bit funny now...

 

[Agrivator]

It's not actually a daft question. When cattle are tested by Ministry vets for illegal feeds or growth promoters etc, they try to get the beast to pee into a container.

 

[Tarw Coch]

It's not actually a daft question. When cattle are tested by Ministry vets for illegal feeds or growth promoters etc, they try to get the beast to pee into a container.

Didn’t realise ministry vets did that, do they find many/ any?

 

[Agrivator]

Didn’t realise ministry vets did that, do they find many/ any?

I presume each local office has a quota to fill. But I would guess they won't find many because it's likely they ask their favourite friendly farmers to oblige and steer clear of the real villains.

 

[Tarw Coch]

I presume each local office has a quota to fill. But I would guess they won't find many because it's likely they ask their favourite friendly farmers to oblige and steer clear of the real villains.

OMG, they must consider me a real villain

 

[Frodo2]

Has anyone a technical reason why Urine pd testing for cattle has not been developed. It is simple and accurate in humans and would be easy to use in cattle, so I can see an easy market.

 

[wr.]

Didn’t realise ministry vets did that, do they find many/ any?

We got a phone call last year from a ministry vet to ask If we'd mind if she could come to test a couple of cattle for illegal feed/hormones etc. We said that it would be no problem and she came, did the tests and we heard no more. They have a quota to fill and we were handy I guess.

 

[borderterribles]

We got a phone call last year from a ministry vet to ask If we'd mind if she could come to test a couple of cattle for illegal feed/hormones etc. We said that it would be no problem and she came, did the tests and we heard no more. They have a quota to fill and we were handy I guess.

Yes, we've had the same!

 

[Henarar]

Has anyone a technical reason why Urine pd testing for cattle has not been developed. It is simple and accurate in humans and would be easy to use in cattle, so I can see an easy market.

no idea if there is one but it would be useful for the odd few

 

[hendrebc]

Has anyone a technical reason why Urine pd testing for cattle has not been developed. It is simple and accurate in humans and would be easy to use in cattle, so I can see an easy market.

Would a human one work? I did think about trying it a few years ago when i had heifers i suspected were in calf in a shed away from the farm and thrre were no handling pens there. Walking round after them trying to get them to pee in a cup on the end of a stick would have been easier than trailering them home to see a vet. You can get 2 cheap pregnancy tests for £1 but in the end i just waited like a normal person would. Ended up with 6 extra calves

 

[AftonShepherd]

Has anyone a technical reason why Urine pd testing for cattle has not been developed. It is simple and accurate in humans and would be easy to use in cattle, so I can see an easy market.

You'd wait half an hour for one to pee then half a dozen would go at the same time.

Also, if using natural service, it wouldn't give you an idea of due date.

I could see it being useful if you use AI and simply want a yes/no for one or two cows though.

 

[Henarar]

If they have been lying down for a while they very often pee soon after getting up, have seen the vet make them go

 

[Tarw Coch]

We got a phone call last year from a ministry vet to ask If we'd mind if she could come to test a couple of cattle for illegal feed/hormones etc. We said that it would be no problem and she came, did the tests and we heard no more. They have a quota to fill and we were handy I guess.

Im quite surprised they asked if you’d mind, anyone been using something they shouldn’t would surely have an excuse why they couldn’t

 

[DocPhil001]

Didn’t realise ministry vets did that, do they find many/ any?

We had some sampled when we gamma tested. Not sure on if they find any failures.

 

[VMD100]

In fairness there are plenty of different methods for confirming pregnancy - Blood/serum can be used but also a standard milk sample you'd send for milk recording (believe this has to be over 28 days in calf to work)

 

[kmo]

It's not actually a daft question. When cattle are tested by Ministry vets for illegal feeds or growth promoters etc, they try to get the beast to pee into a container.

Don't think they even have to be qualified as a vet to take the sample. The Ministry person who came here to take a sample from some tb reactors that were being valued at the same time, wasn't a vet. But she had learned a technique of making them pee on demand.

 

[Av Gorritt]

If they're anything like me , they only need to run a tap for a few seconds . I think Mr. Pavlov has summat to answer for with his dogs and bells at feeding time .!

 

[wr.]

Im quite surprised they asked if you’d mind, anyone been using something they shouldn’t would surely have an excuse why they couldn’t

Perhaps they think that if someone does "mind" they might have something to hide and will then swoop.