Thanks for the examples chaps.
I maybe just a lowly dairy farmer , who owns grease guns , but I do know a bit about machinery
Wash your mouth & dust yourself with ashes.
Badly letting down our hard won reputation here
Thanks for the examples chaps.
I maybe just a lowly dairy farmer , who owns grease guns , but I do know a bit about machinery
A quality machine there, that why I got one !https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/tractors/high-hour-horsepower-massey-ferguson-6465-hits-21464-hours not very often a red one gets a good write up
Everything is going up, you can spend 8k on a quad or 5k on a lawn mower
tractors can be clocked just the same as cars, not sure how common it is. tractors were a lot cheaper 15 years ago so some were bought just for 400-500 hours a year, so possibly genuine hoursI've spend quite some time reading many different topics on this forum where is even little mentioned Claas/Renault Ares tractors,since i have some plans in buying one next year.But one thing still i couldn't find mentioned,or maybe i've missed it.When these tractors pass over 9999 hours on clock ,does it goes back to 1 ,or 10 000 ?.Or ofc to put it more simple,is it 4 or 5 digits ?.
I will probably have many questions about them in other topics,but this about hours is currently bugging me.Most of the Claas/Renault Ares tractors here that are for sale ,they are lets say 15 years old,but on hours clock it's written 6000-8000 hours. Personally i highly doubt those are original.So either they are 16 000 -18000 hours or as it is here mentioned at one page,they somehow stop those hours counting for few years ,and before tractor goes for sell ,they fix that. Is that easy to be done ?,or returning working hours on tractors over laptop or idk ,is that ''popular'' such as it is returning mileage on cars ?.
I wouldn't take any notice of tyres, they won't still be on the originals at that age (unlikely anyway)Well most of them have new ,or very good tires on them ,i mean on those that shows 6-8k hours.So in my opinion that puts even larger suspicion on them.I guess it could be ok if machine were doing some road transport allot,then tires do wear out faster,but all of those machines were in field work or at farm using front loader.
I personally think that most stuff gets to the stage where condition becomes more important than hours, I’ve 2 such machines recently bought that fall into that category.@Drillman
Yes i agree with you,but...you are talking about 2000 hours difference ,if other tractor hours are real ,not tampered with or idk...But in my case i am afraid that instead 6000-8000 hours tractors have 10 000 more ,if they turned clock.I wouldn't worry if they have 2-3k hours more than what is on dashboard ,not much worry at least,but 10 000 hours more is just buying cat in a bag.
How much would you give hours to some 150-200hp tractor that is 12-15 years old ?,in average ofc.I know these smaller tractor about 100-120 hp ,they work much with front loader on farms,and they are more universal to say,so usually if i am not wrong they in average make more hours per year than larger machines.
We can all agree that there is nothing worse on these modern tractors for repair than transmission .It's most expensive ,most time consuming repair.My friend on ,not sure exact tractor model,some John Deer 250-280 hp ,older model ,2005 or so year ,for repair of transmission he had to say goodbye to some 12-15 000 euro,not sure exactly but i know price was allot.And that is what i am afraid allot, those fancy transmission of theirs ,i mean on all modern tractors,power shift,cvt,vario ....it's nightmare if they fail, mechanically i mean ofc.
I bought a 1996 6200 jd back in the summer as a spare , i was a little worried that the clock reading was not right but it was tidy and ran ok so i bought it . Anyway i gave it a clean oil and filter and thought i would check the air filter was clean only to find the date it was changed and hours all matching up ! so don't be suprised if your renults are genuine .I agree ofc,but please share with me what would you look for to determine condition of tractor ?.90% of tractors here that are for sale are imported goods.John Deere,Claas,Renault,Valtra,Massey,Fendt,New Holland,Case .....Peoples that are doing this importing and then selling of those machines ,they are ...i guess we can use word crafty,they can hide most of the flaws of some poorer looking machine and is hard to tell what condition it was before they put hands on them.Very little of them will allow buyer to test that tractor in field somewhere ,to heat up all the oils,test gear changes under load ,etc. Usually they will only allow driving down the street and more or less that's it.And that is how nearly all of them are,i would never buy used machine like that ,but seems that not all farmers thinks like that here...i follow those adds here and honestly most of the tractors find new owners pretty fast.
The USA markets seems a dream from what I have seen there is low hours tractors everywhere in the new type of gear! That type of gear does not exist in ausEven been to Turkey or Africa on holiday? Did you notice they don't seem to use any tractors under 30 years old?
USA and Oz seem to keep tractors etc far longer than we do in the UK