Tramlining at 32m

[l'ordinary bonville]

I've been at 28m for 10 years now with a 4m drill. This has made for easy tramlining with 7 passes of the drill and no issues with the outside run.

Moving to 32m means an even number of passes but what do others do for the outside headland run?

I know some just go with half width on drill, which I don't have automated.

I would rather not overlap for 2m in every field.

Could I tramline one wheeling in pass 4 and the next in pass 5, then the same across the field every 8 passes?

The drill tractor is full RTK autosteer and will set the tramline for the sprayer and slurry spreader, both of which are not autosteer, so needs to be tramlined.

 

[cotswoldcs]

Why not consider 36m? Hardly seems worth moving from 28 to 32 if it's going to cause bother.

 

[Sandy]

Why go 32?

 

[Chae1]

How big a headland do you do? Just run wide between 4th and 5th pass and that will give you centre mark to follow. Tramlines have gone out of fashion btw! Real farmers put them in with rtk on sprayer!

 

[Mark C]

Will your drill do asymetric tramlines? I drill 24m with a 4 m accord combi it puts one wheelmark in on pass 3 and the other on pass 4. You have to remember to start off correctly or you will have a very wide track width if you get it wrong............

 

[cotswoldcs]

How big a headland do you do? Just run wide between 4th and 5th pass and that will give you centre mark to follow. Tramlines have gone out of fashion btw! Real farmers put them in with rtk on sprayer!

I can't quite understand the demise of tramlining. Using tramlines over 1,000ha on 24m works out at over 3 tonnes of wheat seed (according to my dodgy calculations). I might be wrong but what are you saving by NOT tramlining? Seems a waste to put seed on and then destroy it.

 

[Lincsman]

I've been at 28m for 10 years now with a 4m drill. This has made for easy tramlining with 7 passes of the drill and no issues with the outside run.

Moving to 32m means an even number of passes but what do others do for the outside headland run?

I know some just go with half width on drill, which I don't have automated.

I would rather not overlap for 2m in every field.

Could I tramline one wheeling in pass 4 and the next in pass 5, then the same across the field every 8 passes?

The drill tractor is full RTK autosteer and will set the tramline for the sprayer and slurry spreader, both of which are not autosteer, so needs to be tramlined.

If you are running auto steer then putting 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 should work fine as you will be accurate?

 

[warksfarmer]

Why

I've been at 28m for 10 years now with a 4m drill. This has made for easy tramlining with 7 passes of the drill and no issues with the outside run.

Moving to 32m means an even number of passes but what do others do for the outside headland run?

I know some just go with half width on drill, which I don't have automated.

I would rather not overlap for 2m in every field.

Could I tramline one wheeling in pass 4 and the next in pass 5, then the same across the field every 8 passes?

The drill tractor is full RTK autosteer and will set the tramline for the sprayer and slurry spreader, both of which are not autosteer, so needs to be tramlined.

Why bother tramlining with the drill in the first place? Just turn the tramlining system off and never get a cock up ever again. Then put the tramlines in with a auto steer system on the sprayer. You can then put them to suit the sprayer and not the drill.

 

[nick...]

How big a headland do you do? Just run wide between 4th and 5th pass and that will give you centre mark to follow. Tramlines have gone out of fashion btw! Real farmers put them in with rtk on sprayer!

Im a real farmer but never going to have rtk on my little bit of england,or should i say my mothers
Nick...

 

[General-Lee]

Do people (pioneers) who don't drill tramlines desiccate? As when we went from 20-24m we didn't do the outside round and that was always greener where it was run on. Now overlap the 2nd pass.

 

[warksfarmer]

Do people (pioneers) who don't drill tramlines desiccate? As when we went from 20-24m we didn't do the outside round and that was always greener where it was run on. Now overlap the 2nd pass.

Hardly pioneering ...... Tramlines from seed drills became popular in the 60's.

And as for dessication? Yes normally but haven't desdicated much since 2012.

 

[Badshot]

I harvest wheat from my tramlines, no dessication, odd green in the sample but nothing to worry about so far.

 

[Douglasmn]

I can't quite understand the demise of tramlining. Using tramlines over 1,000ha on 24m works out at over 3 tonnes of wheat seed (according to my dodgy calculations). I might be wrong but what are you saving by NOT tramlining? Seems a waste to put seed on and then destroy it.

You're saving/preventing soil erosion. Far better for the soil to have something growing in it than left bare. Can sooner get back on the land when it's been wet if tramlines have something growing, roots going down and taking moisture away whilst binding the soil together. I wouldn't claim to be saving money by not tram lining with the drill, but definitely(on this farm/soil anyway) it's leading to a higher standard of work. No more rutted tramlines and picking up mud to then take it out onto the road.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Why not consider 36m? Hardly seems worth moving from 28 to 32 if it's going to cause bother.

I also need to spread slurry and lots of it.

I have a contractor who can now spread at 32m tramlines, hence the change from 28m.

36m too wide for said contractor

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

Why


Why bother tramlining with the drill in the first place? Just turn the tramlining system off and never get a cock up ever again. Then put the tramlines in with a auto steer system on the sprayer. You can then put them to suit the sprayer and not the drill.

Sprayer does not have autosteer, drill tractor does, hence setting out my tramlines with the tramliner on the drill

 

[Brisel]

What kind of drill do you have? My 6m Rapid has 2 metering systems so turning one half off for the second bout around the headland is easy enough. Single distributor air drills can have kits fitted that shut off half the outlets thought his means a double seed rate on the other half. Many box drills have a dog clutch half way along that you can disengage to shut half down.

For power harrow combination work I just double drill a half width. The power harrow buries the previous seed so deep not much comes up & I have never had any lodging in that 2m row.

 

[John 1594]

What kind of drill do you have? My 6m Rapid has 2 metering systems so turning one half off for the second bout around the headland is easy enough. Single distributor air drills can have kits fitted that shut off half the outlets thought his means a double seed rate on the other half. Many box drills have a dog clutch half way along that you can disengage to shut half down.

For power harrow combination work I just double drill a half width. The power harrow buries the previous seed so deep not much comes up & I have never had any lodging in that 2m row.

pretty much what i do, find the half width start is ideal for straightening out a slightly curved field boundary as well

 

[Brisel]

pretty much what i do, find the half width start is ideal for straightening out a slightly curved field boundary as well

That would leave you with unsprayed crop or treating the outside margin wouldn't it?

 

[John 1594]

That would leave you with unsprayed crop or treating the outside margin wouldn't it?

its so insignificant its not worth bothering about, a sprayer doesnt spray to an exact meterage after all, there always a bit of le-way either side, if anything il go wide rather than narrow, so probably end up with a few coulters on the first breed that havent had any spray or fert, but then if the wind happens to be laying that way at the time they will get sprayed to a certain extent anyway

i know its not precise enough for the "bean counters" on here, but it works, and we dont always start drilling on the edge of the margin either

 

[Brisel]

Ok. I wasn't sure just how much straightening you were referring to. 2m would be quite a lot of unsprayed crop.

I'll refrain from "bean counting."