Triton direct seed drill
- Thread starter R J H
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- Somerset
Looks very impressive
- Location
- Somerset
Yes I feel that might be what has happened with some of ours. But then I think its also down to the year...
warksfarmer
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Never used a simtech but just had a look at the website and I would be concerned that the foot would smear in conditions like we are in now. That said you'd get that with all the other offerings such as a horsch or TS etc so its not just simtech. The triton front seeding point is designed to cut a grove out below where the seed is placed to allow the water around the seed to drain away. The seed drops onto the tail and thats how you get the twin row effect but the point is running deeper than the seed level. You can see it in the attached pics I've robbed off the triton website. Dont think simon will mind.
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Not dissimilar to a Sumo DTS or a Claydon?
Fine til the slot fills with water ime
Mzuri a bit better with having a wing of sorts on the leading leg to fracture the soil a bit. It takes a pull when it gets wet though
'Just because you can doesn't mean you should'
- Location
- Somerset
We found in 2019 with a mzuri we trialed a field of wheat, 15 acres got 5 ton off of the field... Seed rotted in the slots. So even with lots more disturbance if it rains and rains and rains...
warksfarmer
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Quite a bit different. We ran a claydon and the A shares would smear at this time of the year like any drill with a larger foot. The triton foot is very narrow hence why you dont see smearing. Theres no info about the DTS point on the sumo website I can see but if its similar running a wider point then again it'll smear.
If you have the traction up front you then run the rear closing blade lower than the seeding tine point which then creates another drainage chanel to the side of the seed zone which makes drainage even better.
The thing about the triton is that it means you can drill through the winter months if you can get traction. Basically if the tractor will run then the triton will plant the seed. Its the ultimate weapon against grass weeds. We have had a two full kills on ryegrass this year. Its impossible to do this unless you can plant seeds now. Now I am not going to tell you everywhere will come up perfect because it wont. Headlands will be variable but I keep the turning tight so really its the first 6m from the hedge which wont be ideal. Field corners are never great because of the turning. The weight of the tractor squeezes the soil and the seed doesn't like it. But if you can get 90-95% of the field growing from a late november planting dates and have had two grass weed kills then its as good as itll get.
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Honeybadger
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Yes I agree I’ve had a mzuri and the triton is a different world in the wet compared to one of those. The mzuri runs it’s tyres over every cultivated strip which in wet conditions is not good as you can’t consolidate wet clay you just smear it back down.
clbarclay
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- Location
- Worcestershire
The Triton has one closing blade between a pair of seeding blades, with the 166mm spacing between every seed row?
Quite a few farmers seem to be getting on well with wider row spacings. I wonder if you could increase the spacing between each pair of rows, to reduce the total number of tines. If the row spacing alternated 166 and 262 (Closing blades between the 166 spaced rows) then you could remove 4 seeding blades and 2 closing blades on a 3m wide frame, which might need nearly a quarter less grip to pull.
Quite a few farmers seem to be getting on well with wider row spacings. I wonder if you could increase the spacing between each pair of rows, to reduce the total number of tines. If the row spacing alternated 166 and 262 (Closing blades between the 166 spaced rows) then you could remove 4 seeding blades and 2 closing blades on a 3m wide frame, which might need nearly a quarter less grip to pull.
- Location
- Somerset
Might also make it a bit cheaper. When we were pricing them they werent the cheapest by a long stretch.
Perhaps if the closing tines are too widely spaced they don't have the same closing pressure
Honeybadger
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- Location
- Yorkshire
You would space the paired rows out so keeping the 166mm spacing with closing time in between.
not totally convinced on wider row spacings especially in spring cropping though.
warksfarmer
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Not a fan of wider row spacings here. Albeit a few years ago but under the claydon wide rows we had a big brome issue.
Narrower rows gets nearer to the 'optimum spacings' of seeds so in my view better as you get better soil coverage. The ideal system is broadcasting as that gives optimum plant spacing.
warksfarmer
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Update good stuff .
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warksfarmer
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- Location
- E Yorks
Sadly as Forrest Gump said "It Happens!" but the top photos look incredible and anybody would be proud of those but thank you for showing the good, the bad and the ugly.
warksfarmer
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Just trying to continually point out that this drill will place the seed properly in very late conditions and it’ll grow unless of course we get horrendous flooding like we’ve seen the last few months.
I know that had we not been flooded then those fields would also be green from November/December drilling.
Potentially if drilled in September they might well be a lot greener today even after the rain but I know for absolute sure they would also be full of ryegrass in June which would then rob around 70% of yield from experience.
If you can get traction with a triton in the winter then it’ll place the seed and cover the slot.
No drill will counter flooding.