holywell farmer
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nutall is there new leader
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Anyone care?
RobFZS
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Labour seem to do, dragging up old vids of Nuttal saying he wanted to sort the NHS out on social media
Old McDonald
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Whilst I am a bit like Wombat on this, I have to agree with you that Labour is running scared. Until there is another general election UKIP are as unimportant as the LibDems, Raving Monster Loony Party and the Greens. Labour too I suppose. Come an election, then some of them might have some importance, but not all.
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Was there not the suggestion at the last general election that UKIP was gaining support from people/groups that would be traditionally Labour voters.
From the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-voters-progressive-values-working-class-ukip
"The rise of Ukip was a key reason why Labour was unable to return to Downing Street in last year’s election. The root of Ukip’s appeal was misdiagnosed by Labour MPs, who refused to accept that it was as much about identity as economics – an abstract feeling that the EU, immigration and rapid social change threatened a cherished identity, community and set of values.
Ukip, which drew most of its votes from older, working-class and self-employed Britons, emerged from the 2015 general election as the main opposition in 120 seats, 44 of which have Labour MPs. Nationally, Ukip averaged nearly 13%. But in Labour’s traditionally safe northern heartlands this figure jumped to 19%."
From the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-voters-progressive-values-working-class-ukip
"The rise of Ukip was a key reason why Labour was unable to return to Downing Street in last year’s election. The root of Ukip’s appeal was misdiagnosed by Labour MPs, who refused to accept that it was as much about identity as economics – an abstract feeling that the EU, immigration and rapid social change threatened a cherished identity, community and set of values.
Ukip, which drew most of its votes from older, working-class and self-employed Britons, emerged from the 2015 general election as the main opposition in 120 seats, 44 of which have Labour MPs. Nationally, Ukip averaged nearly 13%. But in Labour’s traditionally safe northern heartlands this figure jumped to 19%."
RobFZS
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Ukip failed to focus on their core area's and thus came second in like 120 or something constituencies, if they focus all their efforts in 10 close constituencies, it could be a different story
holywell farmer
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Think next election there vote stay the same
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Historical legend say the front benches on each side are over two sword lengths from the other to prevent members who had swords in ancient times from skewering each other!
holywell farmer
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Will farage stand at an election againGet enough of them into Westminster so they can have their brawls and fistfights on home turf. Make a very entertaining alternative to PMQ's
holywell farmer
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He could win stoke
holywell farmer
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Well I was wrong about that
It was already broken.
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In fighting never looks good to voters though. So really you just never saw that coming. Nuttall was caught out claiming stuff on his website, his fault or not the average voter isn't going to support that. Then resignations and that ridiculous photo of Nuttall all in tweed. Lack of professionalism really.
holywell farmer
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He is not hero to the working classes
It was already broken.
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All set up for the return of Nigel.
JohnGalway
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Can't run their own party but some people want them to run a country.
Old McDonald
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I cannot see how it can produce a manifesto without offending an enormous number of people not on the right of politics, and even some of them.
The main aim of Brexit is now not an issue. It is opposed to multi-culturism and wants to lower immigration. Follows old style UK values on things like same sex marriage, education and tradition. I can still see it being a popular party on those issues, but cannot understand what its economic aims would be for the governing of the UK if it was the majority party.
If it continues, will it merely take votes from all the other parties without achieving many, or any, MPs? If this happened I can imagine no strong opposition parties in the Commons for many years against what would surely be enormous Conservative majorities.
The main aim of Brexit is now not an issue. It is opposed to multi-culturism and wants to lower immigration. Follows old style UK values on things like same sex marriage, education and tradition. I can still see it being a popular party on those issues, but cannot understand what its economic aims would be for the governing of the UK if it was the majority party.
If it continues, will it merely take votes from all the other parties without achieving many, or any, MPs? If this happened I can imagine no strong opposition parties in the Commons for many years against what would surely be enormous Conservative majorities.