Up Horn/Down Corn

[crashbox]

A biggish fat lamb (50kg?) is worth £160. (the same as a ton of barley)

A small fat beast (500kg) is worth £1600. (the same as 10 tons of barley).

Has the value of finished stock compared to the price of grain ever been a high during the last 10,000 years?

Maybe alright today, but where will it be in 6 months time when the cattle are finished?

Will Australian beef knock the prices?

 

[Drillman]

you obviously havnt been lambing in the last few weeks.

needs top be what it is , darn site harder than arable farmer with their arse on seat all the time and nothing to do in winter bar shoot and ski and decide what new combine or drill latset trick implement to buy next year thats fornsure.

No sheeps here but just started calving

 

[Nithsdale]

£20 x 5 to the ton delivered up to 35 mile, regular custoumer's. barn stored garanted sound wheat or barley however it come's out the shed. not hurting anybodie are we?

So £100/t delivered?
No sure rounds price but squares we are quoted £125-£130/t delivered so you're cheap.


Do you know the Irish are desperate for straw?

 

[thorpe]

So £100/t delivered?
No sure rounds price but squares we are quoted £125-£130/t delivered so you're cheap.


Do you know the Irish are desperate for straw?

there in d1000 squares , our problem is our custoumer's are friend's weve dealt with them that long

 

[Nithsdale]

there in d1000 squares , our problem is our custoumer's are friend's weve dealt with them that long

Never do business with friends...

But fair enough - you can't really complain about poor price if you're voluntarily selling yourself cheap

 

[Hilly]

I think if i was sowing combinable crop this spring id be sowing something that yeilds more straw than crop, could be grown lot cheaper as well surely ?

 

[som farmer]

All it used to be in the 90s was some BS sent out about a beef scare to keep the price down for 2 years , things start to recover and the next load of BS sent out and so on it was like fekin clockwork FFS

and you still see some try to stir it all up again

in several US states, they are having a serious deer cull, they have this wasting disease............

 

[thorpe]

Never do business with friends...

But fair enough - you can't really complain about poor price if you're voluntarily selling yourself cheap

they don't complain when i charge a bit more when the job's the other way, like we are doing with feed barley at the moment!

 

[som farmer]

I think if i was sowing combinable crop this spring id be sowing something that yeilds more straw than crop, could be grown lot cheaper as well surely ?

we farm boys ground compared to yours, has its problems mind.

but we grow maize, and we can pick up £60 acre, by sowing a cover crop after maize, and remove it, pre the next maize.

this year, we are thinking of sowing forage rye, glyphosate it, dry, and bale for bedding, hope it works, sounds reasonable, and could save some money.

 

[Nithsdale]

I think if i was sowing combinable crop this spring id be sowing something that yeilds more straw than crop, could be grown lot cheaper as well surely ?

I'm gonna cut and bale rashes and sell it as weathered bedding

 

[Hilly]

I'm gonna cut and bale rashes and sell it as weathered bedding

Been done before , and bracken !!l never beaten

 

[Optimus]

I think if i was sowing combinable crop this spring id be sowing something that yeilds more straw than crop, could be grown lot cheaper as well surely ?

Don't think there's as many varieties about that yield a lot of straw these days.

 

[Nithsdale]

Been done before , and bracken !!l never beaten

Aye. Too steep and too much rock or id be all over the hill baling bracken

 

[Hilly]

Don't think there's as many varieties about that yield a lot of straw these days.

Triticale. ?

 

[Hilly]

Save on growth reg ?

 

[Optimus]

Triticale. ?

Possibly.tbh the best swath of straw I've seen is combined rye.it was unreal ,not sure how many big squares they were getting but there was hell of a bales in the field.
Not sure how good rye is as a feed but if you want straw that's what you want to grow.

 

[som farmer]

I'm gonna cut and bale rashes and sell it as weathered bedding

you might laugh, but as a student, on a farm in 76, it was rather dry,

there was some common ground locally, the farm had rights on it, so they cut for hay, mainly rushes, never properly dried, and needed 2 people to lift the bales on to 2nd layer on a trailor, tied with wire as well.

later on, we hauled them back out of the barn, and dumped them, mouldy and no lighter.

 

[thorpe]

Save on growth reg ?

not much straw to be gathered from flat corn

 

[thorpe]

Possibly.tbh the best swath of straw I've seen is combined rye.it was unreal ,not sure how many big squares they were getting but there was hell of a bales in the field.
Not sure how good rye is as a feed but if you want straw that's what you want to grow.

them swath's lovly in a wet time

 

[Nithsdale]

you might laugh, but as a student, on a farm in 76, it was rather dry,

there was some common ground locally, the farm had rights on it, so they cut for hay, mainly rushes, never properly dried, and needed 2 people to lift the bales on to 2nd layer on a trailor, tied with wire as well.

later on, we hauled them back out of the barn, and dumped them, mouldy and no lighter.

I wasn't joking. I'm well aware it's been done and is done in many places.


My subtle point is If arable boys are "bleeding to death" and ready to give up growing grain then someone's going to have to step up and supply something of bedding quality to us livestock farms... fulfill my own need and exploit the death of the arable - I see opportunities