Useless Agri Designers/Engineers

[Wishful Thinker]

I've 4 very sore fingers thanks to some stupid ejit that designed my new creep feeder. Its ridiculously heavy, has no ball hitch so can't pull with Quad only way I see it can be moved is with an arm of a tractor and in this weather what use is that. Pulled it on back of Quad it slipped off and nipped my fingers. It's a moyfab product but IAE does one the same, have they no idea how these things are used?

Any one else encountered silly designs that just don't work?

My finger nipper below.

 

[Tarw Coch]

If you can't shift that with a quad you're clearly not a proper farmer.................clue, some farmers friend, it really does have 1001 uses!

 

[Paddington]

Put another set of wheels on at the other end ?

Why can't manufacturers fit wheel locks like you have on trolleys ? Our creep and cratches seem to have a life of their own once left in a field, it's either take wheels off, in which case the R clips will join their dozens of friends which must be lying out there in the mud somewhere, or chock the wheels. After a week or so the chocks have gone off to join the R clips.

 

[yellowbelly]

Farm machinery designers shouldn't be let loose on any project until they've had 5 yrs practical experience of farm work. Our lad is a design engineer for a crop sprayer manufacturer. When he left uni to start work, I showed him 1 or 2 glaring examples of bad design that we have purchased over the years and threatened to kick his @rse if I ever saw him responsible for anything like them.

 

[hinchy]

Have the same but IAE. Stupid design! We haul the whole front end up over the tailgate of the rtv. Baler twine will help you achieve the same to top of quad?

 

[Philip Watkins]

Farm machinery designers shouldn't be let loose on any project until they've had 5 yrs practical experience of farm work......

Same thing applies to car designers. There's cars out there now that require the front end to be stripped down just to change a light bulb.

 

[JP1]

Same thing applies to car designers. There's cars out there now that require the front end to be stripped down just to change a light bulb.

The Vito van design's not too bad. The Volvo V70 is such a simple galvanised pin - no tools required

 

[cooksey]

Just tow it with bale string! Could you not add a draw bar that slides in like on a feed trailer? That way you could use one bar for all feeders

 

[GTB]

I've 4 very sore fingers thanks to some stupid ejit that designed my new creep feeder. Its ridiculously heavy, has no ball hitch so can't pull with Quad only way I see it can be moved is with an arm of a tractor and in this weather what use is that. Pulled it on back of Quad it slipped off and nipped my fingers. It's a moyfab product but IAE does one the same, have they no idea how these things are used?

Any one else encountered silly designs that just don't work?

My finger nipper below.
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We have similar ones made by IAE. We hook them over the towball on the. Land Rover to move them. Very tricky to move with a quad. Ideally they should have a ball hitch fitted but they would also need better wheels and a wider axle. This would probably add at least a hundred quid to the price. How many would they sell?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

We have said for years that all machinery designers should HAVE to spend time operating and maintaining their own designs as part of a CPD process.

My best example was the Skoda Felicia car that I once owned. The headlights were adjusted by a pneumatic system. The knob on the dash was connected to both headlight actuators by a sealed pipe system. When (not if) a leak occurred in the pipe the whole lot had to be replaced as one. Easy on the production line before the engine was fitted but impossible as a repair.

Another great one is the engine oil drain on a Matbro TS270. It is right over the pick up hitch shaft so you always end up with old engine oil everywhere. All it needed was the drain plug moving to a different place on the sump.

 

[David.]

Oughtn't to take many minutes to fashion a cradle out of 1" box, that just hooks under the handle and has an eye to sit on the hitch ball.
Made an a-frame to tow wheeled hay racks that hooks round the axles, of similar design.
Always find that polypropylene tow bars end up wound round wheel, when the towed appliance tries to overtake you.
That creep feeder looks way stronger than anything IAE can sell.

 

[Wishful Thinker]

If you can't shift that with a quad you're clearly not a proper farmer.................clue, some farmers friend, it really does have 1001 uses!

I did have it but went up a steep hill and whole thing shifted. Plus cause its so heavy it's hard enough getting it on the quad and then front wheels can barely grip!!
My point is why should I need to use baler twine or make an adjustment, the product should be suitable for most situations it's designed for. This one is made in NI so they know the weather they should know that they would need moved regularly to avoid poaching, so should make it easy to do so.

 

[Chae1]

We have said for years that all machinery designers should HAVE to spend time operating and maintaining their own designs as part of a CPD process.

My best example was the Skoda Felicia car that I once owned. The headlights were adjusted by a pneumatic system. The knob on the dash was connected to both headlight actuators by a sealed pipe system. When (not if) a leak occurred in the pipe the whole lot had to be replaced as one. Easy on the production line before the engine was fitted but impossible as a repair.

Another great one is the engine oil drain on a Matbro TS270. It is right over the pick up hitch shaft so you always end up with old engine oil everywhere. All it needed was the drain plug moving to a different place on the sump.

Fastrac the same idea. Sump plug directly above drive shaft. Sprays oil everywhere. Bit of plastic gutter underneath diverts it in right direction.

 

[cooksey]

If you had a winch on the front of the bike you could clip it to the winch and push it

 

[Paddington]

Still waiting for someone to design the ideal wheelbarrow, one that has deep sides, doesn't overturn on a sloping field or get mud trapped between the wheel and frame which brings it to a halt, with handles high enough so you don't have to lope along with bent knees like Groucho Marx trying to keep the tub level to the ground.

 

[Sharpy]

Still waiting for someone to design the ideal wheelbarrow, one that has deep sides, doesn't overturn on a sloping field or get mud trapped between the wheel and frame which brings it to a halt, with handles high enough so you don't have to lope along with bent knees like Groucho Marx trying to keep the tub level to the ground.

Have a look at at the Walsall wheelbarrow co, the Invincible is very good, big deep but not too wide galv skip, strong frame, good handle height for me(6ft 4in), used variants for years and have found none better.

 

[cooksey]

Still waiting for someone to design the ideal wheelbarrow, one that has deep sides, doesn't overturn on a sloping field or get mud trapped between the wheel and frame which brings it to a halt, with handles high enough so you don't have to lope along with bent knees like Groucho Marx trying to keep the tub level to the ground.

Dyson Did one I am not sure if there any good the ball barrow!

 

[Loftyrules]

I did have it but went up a steep hill and whole thing shifted. Plus cause its so heavy it's hard enough getting it on the quad and then front wheels can barely grip!!
My point is why should I need to use baler twine or make an adjustment, the product should be suitable for most situations it's designed for. This one is made in NI so they know the weather they should know that they would need moved regularly to avoid poaching, so should make it easy to do so.

If it's not good enough why did you buy it?

 

[Paddington]

I've never seen a ballbarrow apart from in country living type magazines, does anyone actually use one in anger for mucking out ? Always getting punctures, what happens if your ball gets one, can they be repaired ?

 

[cooksey]

I've never seen a ballbarrow apart from in country living type magazines, does anyone actually use one in anger for mucking out ? Always getting punctures, what happens if your ball gets one, can they be repaired ?

puncture proof! must be one of them solid rubber tyres i think they look good never used one