Veganuary Figures

[Raider112]

A piece in the paper today saying that the 350,000 people expected to do Veganuary will prevent 41,200 tonnes of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, the equivalent of 450,000 flights from London to Berlin. It will also save the lives of a million animals. Now these are undoubtedly worked out "creatively" but it doesn't look good when people read those figures.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

If I eat 30 steaks in January it’ll save the lives of 30 carrots

 

[A1an]

I wonder what the "real world" figures are.

 

[Wooly]

Lets not worry about all this vegan nonsense and utter bullsh#t........... or perhaps that should be utter vegetable waste !

Statistics show that the World is eating more meat than ever before, so just because the snowflakes of greater London are cutting down, doesn't mean we are all going to have to grow lentils and carrots !

Once a few of these vegans end up unnourished and in bad health due to their diet, the trendy fad will soon be just for the die hard nut brigade.

 

[Treg]

Apparently lots of people pretend to be Vegan...

Who is really eating meat-free? Studies offer widely varying answers

When people self-report, a large number say they are vegetarian or vegan. But a UBC study with rigorous interviews has a different take.

vancouversun.com

 

[yin ewe]

350k out of 70 odd million or 0.5% of the population is taking part in veganuary, many of whom will go back to leading 'normal' lives once it's over, not much wonder they have to shout about it.
Where does the 1 million animals figure come from? If it's simply animals not eaten that's 3 animals/person/month, which would be a fair bit of meat eating. We eat some sort of meat here everyday, but 3 each in a month would be good going.

 

[AGN76]

Was on GMS on R2 this morning. I thought here we go again, but it was quite refreshing to hear a 'sane' vegan and not the usual malnourished extremist!

 

[jerseycowsman]

A piece in the paper today saying that the 350,000 people expected to do Veganuary will prevent 41,200 tonnes of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, the equivalent of 450,000 flights from London to Berlin. It will also save the lives of a million animals. Now these are undoubtedly worked out "creatively" but it doesn't look good when people read those figures.

How can they say that? It all depends what they replace the meat and milk with and the carbon footprint of that.
And the way they say 450000 flights to Berlin, trying to make out it actually will save 450000 individual planes going backwards and forwards instead of 450000 people. Which is still a dubious figure, I would say more like about 160000 individual return flights

 

[Raider112]

Apparently lots of people pretend to be Vegan...

Who is really eating meat-free? Studies offer widely varying answers

When people self-report, a large number say they are vegetarian or vegan. But a UBC study with rigorous interviews has a different take.

vancouversun.com

Maybe somebody should do a survey in the UK based on this style of questioning, might put paid to a few misconceptions.

 

[Raider112]

350k out of 70 odd million or 0.5% of the population is taking part in veganuary, many of whom will go back to leading 'normal' lives once it's over, not much wonder they have to shout about it.
Where does the 1 million animals figure come from? If it's simply animals not eaten that's 3 animals/person/month, which would be a fair bit of meat eating. We eat some sort of meat here everyday, but 3 each in a month would be good going.

I doubt it saves one life, does anybody think "I won't send any fatstock or broilers next month because it's Veganuary"?

 

[Raider112]

How can they say that? It all depends what they replace the meat and milk with and the carbon footprint of that.
And the way they say 450000 flights to Berlin, trying to make out it actually will save 450000 individual planes going backwards and forwards instead of 450000 people. Which is still a dubious figure, I would say more like about 160000 individual return flights

Exactly, we know it's nonsense but plenty will swallow it. We keep going back to the need to have the NFU or some other organisation who can put their own figures out so that we have the stats to answer all the nonsense. Give us proper indisputable facts that we can use to discredit these figures and the tide will turn pretty quickly.

 

[Tim G]

Where does the 1 million animals figure come from? If it's simply animals not eaten that's 3 animals/person/month, which would be a fair bit of meat eating. We eat some sort of meat here everyday, but 3 each in a month would be good going.

I thought the same but I suppose it depends if we're talking chickens or bullocks.

 

[Tim W]

http://theconversation.com/ordering...hDms_EXFu-Wm6hcMkNjQpLVj2MC_WyraAOUks-oC_0ITs

May actually cost more animal lives to go vegan? (as we all suspect)

Not that i have anything against anyone eating anything they want to ---being sanctimonious about it is ignoring the reality though

 

[Yale]

Apparently lots of people pretend to be Vegan...

Who is really eating meat-free? Studies offer widely varying answers

When people self-report, a large number say they are vegetarian or vegan. But a UBC study with rigorous interviews has a different take.

vancouversun.com

Interesting thing which I followed from the article.

A Vegan Influencer Just Revealed She Ate Tons Of Meat For 30 Days, And Fans Are Pissed

"You’re part of the problem, don’t pretend like you’re part of any solution."

www.womenshealthmag.com

 

[Raider112]

http://theconversation.com/ordering...hDms_EXFu-Wm6hcMkNjQpLVj2MC_WyraAOUks-oC_0ITs

May actually cost more animal lives to go vegan? (as we all suspect)

Not that i have anything against anyone eating anything they want to ---being sanctimonious about it is ignoring the reality though

That's common sense really and should be rammed home at every opportunity. Not forgetting that we eat the livestock as opposed to just killing the other creatures for being in the way.

 

[Cowgirl]

A constant drip of misinformation.
Saw this on Twitter- if true it’s what we are facing.
“Ten companies are trying to control the world’s nutrition, together worth greater than $1 trillion. Carbs, sugar, grains and cheap vegetable oils - veganism is the best thing that ever happened to the processed food industry.”

 

[Canada Farmer]

A piece in the paper today saying that the 350,000 people expected to do Veganuary will prevent 41,200 tonnes of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, the equivalent of 450,000 flights from London to Berlin. It will also save the lives of a million animals. Now these are undoubtedly worked out "creatively" but it doesn't look good when people read those figures.

Numbers are just that, is there any data to back up these assumptions or is it just another media article just to up their ratings and stir controversy?
Reality is 78.3% of all vegans eat bacon at least once a year.....?

 

[ajd132]

Rather than moan and call vegans idiots, why don’t we work out ways to make money from them?

 

[snarling bee]

Maybe somebody should do a survey in the UK based on this style of questioning, might put paid to a few misconceptions.

They have.
2% say they are vegan. 0.6% actually are.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Rather than moan and call vegans idiots, why don’t we work out ways to make money from them?

Sell them all the bullocks for £1700 and lambs for £200 for their sanctuary’s
That way we get rid of our stock and they get to save animals....win win