vet pushes cow's uterus back in on countryfile

i have just watched a new calved cow's uterus pushed backed in on countryfile and I was surprised when the vet said she is young cow and should be ok I took that meaning as the cow should be alright for more calves, but surely after prolapse the cow should not be kept for further breeding
 

nails

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Location
East Dorset
i have just watched a new calved cow's uterus pushed backed in on countryfile and I was surprised when the vet said she is young cow and should be ok I took that meaning as the cow should be alright for more calves, but surely after prolapse the cow should not be kept for further breeding

No , they are normally fine with never another prolapse after calving or partial before. That,s my experience anyway.
 
Location
Cleveland
i have just watched a new calved cow's uterus pushed backed in on countryfile and I was surprised when the vet said she is young cow and should be ok I took that meaning as the cow should be alright for more calves, but surely after prolapse the cow should not be kept for further breeding
If it was the full calf bed and was put back in, it won’t come out again
 

Vicki_Ann

Member
It does very much depend really. I did have one middle of the night call from hell to a prolapsed uterus, and she was a repeat offender (a colleague had put her back together the previous year) and she had not only prolapsed her uterus but also torn it and bled an awful lot as well. After a small panic and frank discussion we decided she had a good calf to rear so I would try my best and make no promises. Was a nightmare trying to stitch it back up and then put it back without compromising the stitched up bit .... but amazingly she lived, reared her calf and we all breathed a sigh of relief when the client said she'd gone in the barrens and fetched a decent price :)

Heifers however who have had a large calf seem to push their beds out reasonably often ... and sometimes heifers just don't quite understand when to stop pushing and striving. The damage a heifer will do to herself during calving is unbelievable. I'm not quite sure why, I sometimes think it's because it's all new and once everything feels sore and stretched they seem to sometimes just continue to push. But a heifer who has pushed her bed out IME is not definitely going to do it again. Older cows however do seem to become repeat offenders if they get the chance :-(
 

Vicki_Ann

Member
The vet said they now don't stitch the cow. Is that now normal practice?

I don't stitch, if the uterus is back in and all turned back the right way it shouldn't come back out once pain relief, calcium, oxytocin and extradural given. A cow will push her bed through stitches no problem but just shred it as she does.
I would rather it came back out whole if it's going to and then just needs to be put back in and try and ensure all the length of the horns are turned back the right way.
 

czechmate

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Mixed Farmer
I don't stitch, if the uterus is back in and all turned back the right way it shouldn't come back out once pain relief, calcium, oxytocin and extradural given. A cow will push her bed through stitches no problem but just shred it as she does.
I would rather it came back out whole if it's going to and then just needs to be put back in and try and ensure all the length of the horns are turned back the right way.


The vets here use 3 or 4 massive safety pins. I assumed that was normal?
 

Vicki_Ann

Member
Vets always vary in what they do. We tend to use what we find works. I have only ever had one come back out (and put an awful lot back in) and that one case the uterus was absolutely huge and I did struggle to reach the ends of the horns. Once put back again it had involuted enough that the horns were all within reach to turn back the right way and it stayed put.

I know some vets do stitch and if they have never had a problem with that method, there is probably no good reason to change it
 
Location
Cumbria
I have had many put back in over the years by the various vets in the practice, I wouldn't be very happy if they didn't stitch. As most seem to happen at night getting up to find a calf bed out that I'd paid to be put back in would not be a good result. Removing a stitch after a couple of days is no hardship.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
If cow is pushing no stitching or safety pins will keep that lot in, if not it wont come out so no point stitching just rip them to bits if pushing.


We had a heifer last year and she was reallying pushing again a few hours after the vet left. I was sure the pins would tear out but they didn't. I can't imagine it wouldn't of all come out again with nothing but obviously can't say for certain
 

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