We must fight "WWF Basket" now.

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
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Rutland
According to Farmers weekly Red Tractor are trying to bring in the Greener Farm Commitment (GFC) to help supermarkets meet commitment they have signed up to under the “WWF Basket” https://www.fwi.co.uk/business/shocking-cost-of-red-tractors-green-module-revealed

But how many of us know what "WWF Basket" stands for?

Have a look here, but sit down first! https://www.wwf.org.uk/sites/default/files/2021-11/WWF-Basket-Blueprint-for-Action.pdf

The document takes a bit of digestion but the “Diet” section includes nuggets like:

“Reduce the UK’s biomass consumption footprint by 50% by 2030. Reduce the consumption of meat and dairy by at least 20% and increase the proportion of plant-based foods in the average diet.”

“Set ambitious targets to decrease sales of animal proteins and increase sales of plant proteins to achieve a 50/50 split by 2030.”

“Increase the proportion of vegetarian and plant-based meals relative to meat-containing meals using Eating Better benchmarking as a guide. “

In the “Agriculture” section:

Reduce nitrogen and phosphorus use by at least 80%

As part owners of Red Tractor, I find it hard to understand how the NFU and AHDB have allowed GFC to get this far. Tom Bradshaw has stated that he thinks it is the process, not the principle that is the problem with GFC. I disagree, it is both the principle and the process that is wrong and no organisation that claims to represent UK farmers should be part of it. If UK farming organisations cannot stand up to the British Retail Consortium now, there will be no UK farms for them to represent in the near future.

Consider joining the British Farming Union - farmers standing up for farmers. https://www.bfu.org.uk

Please forward this message on to raise peoples awareness of the issues our industry is facing and the real implications of Red Tractors Greener Farm Commitment.
 
Check out what they were up to at COP28, not one reply to the thread.

I truly believe 99% of farmers do not know they are in a war...just day dreaming along thinking about retirement.


The opposite team in the war are highly organised, they are using our tax money to fight against us, control us and destroy us.

Ive said ot all along we own the one thing they can order off the shelf...land...they can get private jets and yachts,but most pr*ck governments and the ultra rich want control of the dirt and we are a nuisance in the road.


Ant....
 

B'o'B

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Arable Farmer
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Rutland
Check out what they were up to at COP28, not one reply to the thread.

I truly believe 99% of farmers do not know they are in a war...just day dreaming along thinking about retirement.


The opposite team in the war are highly organised, they are using our tax money to fight against us, control us and destroy us.

Ive said ot all along we own the one thing they can order off the shelf...land...they can get private jets and yachts,but most pr*ck governments and the ultra rich want control of the dirt and we are a nuisance in the road.


Ant....
I'd missed that thread, I'll listen to the first 5 mins now and finish it later. The first bit is defiantly pretty bonkers, I may need a stiff drink to get to the end of it if it continues along the same lines!
 

milkloss

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East Sussex
Wrong fight I reckon. It’s the idiots that don’t research the so called science behind it and promote the implementation of it that we need to fight.

no ones got enough fire in their belly to actually pull the plug on any of these organisations though. Farmers are a pretty weak bunch when it comes down to it…… like a moth to a flame.
 
I'd missed that thread, I'll listen to the first 5 mins now and finish it later. The first bit is defiantly pretty bonkers, I may need a stiff drink to get to the end of it if it continues along the same lines!
Focus on the data bob, smart people dont get causght up in presenters or styles etc, data is king.

They all did fly in on private jets.

They did set a target of reducing emissions from food by 25%...this came from the president...an oil god, yes an oil sultan is the climate president...who says we cant phase out fossil fuels...but need to reduce ag...

You are at war my friend like it or not.

COP28 Presidency puts food systems transformation on global climate ... https://www.cop28.com/-/media/Proje...ease.pdf?rev=629dfc8c639146b38ff34586a309a45e


You cannot make thelis sh*t up

Ant....
 

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Cowabunga

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Check out what they were up to at COP28, not one reply to the thread.

I truly believe 99% of farmers do not know they are in a war...just day dreaming along thinking about retirement.
i’ve been warning constantly about this on here for years. I was ridiculed by many for a long time but even the most optimistic surely realise by now, deep down, that the prospects for UK farming over the next few decades, especially livestock, is bleak. That UK agriculture and farming as a viable business will decline drastically is now almost inevitable. Even the NFU have given up [before they even started]. For myself, as an old age pensioner with no heir to the business, I have no stomach for a fight any longer and there is no real prospect of altering goverment policy other than for the ‘environmental’ lobby to bring it on harder and faster, as they have and are currently doing with success.
 
i’ve been warning constantly about this on here for years. I was ridiculed by many for a long time but even the most optimistic surely realise by now, deep down, that the prospects for UK farming over the next few decades, especially livestock, is bleak. That UK agriculture and farming as a viable business will decline drastically is now almost inevitable. Even the NFU have given up [before they even started]. For myself, as an old age pensioner with no heir to the business, I have no stomach for a fight any longer and there is no real prospect of altering goverment policy other than for the ‘environmental’ lobby to bring it on harder and faster, as they have and are currently doing with success.
I think live stock pressure will flow to oz as well unless we can get changes in govt and policies that stop this madness.

For a consumption machine like humans to seriously blame a cow is absolutely mind blowing, but people buy into it.

Food shortages will occur as the capital cost for mechanisation to grow alternatives will not be appealing to older folk or younger folk with limited funds.

There will be a fmine in future and this will drive land repossessions.

Ant....
 

unclescrooge

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Livestock Farmer
Ok. I am reading this and I do believe it is big business behind it swaying world governments that ag is the big poluters who are destroying the world but instead of posting about it on here what can we actually do about it. The facts and evidence exist already to show fossil fuels is the main cause of it the public if they wanted to could find this out as well our farming bodies that are ment to represent us have gave up and are jumping on the government gravy train and to hell with the farmers.
I ask as I am still fairly young and we have just bought a farm and I will be damned.if I am going to sit about and watch this happen. We as farmers need a game plan to fight back and show the truth
 

delilah

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instead of posting about it on here what can we actually do about it.

Depending on what your farm enterprises are, have a look at how you can market them outside of the corporations.

Join an organisation that you think most closely represents your best interests. May be one of the established bodies (NFU, TFA) may be one of the new players (BFU), may be one of the outliers (Landworkers Alliance).
 

B'o'B

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Rutland
Focus on the data bob, smart people dont get causght up in presenters or styles etc, data is king.

They all did fly in on private jets.

They did set a target of reducing emissions from food by 25%...this came from the president...an oil god, yes an oil sultan is the climate president...who says we cant phase out fossil fuels...but need to reduce ag...

You are at war my friend like it or not.

COP28 Presidency puts food systems transformation on global climate ... https://www.cop28.com/-/media/Proje...ease.pdf?rev=629dfc8c639146b38ff34586a309a45e


You cannot make thelis sh*t up

Ant....
It is virtually beyond comprehension how they can stand there with straight faces and make those pledges. Where it will all take us is anybodies guess, but it doesn’t look like it is going to be anywhere good for the vast majority of people. I don’t know how you would even begin to unpick it.
 
It is virtually beyond comprehension how they can stand there with straight faces and make those pledges. Where it will all take us is anybodies guess, but it doesn’t look like it is going to be anywhere good for the vast majority of people. I don’t know how you would even begin to unpick it.
It will result in famine in poor countries.

What we need to do is stop sending food to the ME and theyncan have sand sandwhiches for a while...sorry mate...climate change you know.

Ant...
 

toquark

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Well at least we can’t seriously be denounced as being conspiracy theorists any more. It’s out in the open now, they’re quite clear in what they want: land, and how they are going to go about getting it.

I think the best thing we can do as individuals is avoid any government schemes like the plague. Don't play their games which are quite openly being rigged against us.

Secondly, join and where possible play an active part in an organisation which can be trusted to fight this bulls**t. The BFU is looking like the most obvious option at the moment.

Lastly, resist vigorously any outside attempt to impose influence on your asset. As a first step that almost certainly means weaning yourself off the taxman’s shilling.

Ant’s right; this is a war and we’re not going to win it by deluding ourselves that it can be changed from “within”. We are the outsiders against an elite who hate us. However, we can take comfort and draw strength from the fact that the vast majority of decent people are on our side and stand to lose as much as we do.
 
Im stuffed in oz, my state farm rep org is all but disolved.

The national body is off with the pixies, and are from the no kid shall be smacked at school group.

The only way to beat these idiots is groups that take the fight to them, massive protest, and start restricting food to the ME if that's how they want to play it. They restrict oil with opec, so why cant we restrict food.

Hire some high profile celebs to do documentary on how these super car rolls royce driving dune coons are a fraud and need to be avoided.

Ant...
 

willyorkshire

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Arable Farmer
Location
East Yorkshire
Im stuffed in oz, my state farm rep org is all but disolved.

The national body is off with the pixies, and are from the no kid shall be smacked at school group.

The only way to beat these idiots is groups that take the fight to them, massive protest, and start restricting food to the ME if that's how they want to play it. They restrict oil with opec, so why cant we restrict food.

Hire some high profile celebs to do documentary on how these super car rolls royce driving dune coons are a fraud and need to be avoided.

Ant...
90% celebs are left wing WEF supporters.
 

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