Weaving sabre tine user thread

[alomy75]

How much of an angle are others sabre tines we bought this second hand old type sabre earlier this year and done some cover crops/turnips and grass with it. I recon the brackets have rotated round the box a bit is this normal and will they stay put where they are now? We are aiming to put beans into sumo trio then cultipressed ground how deep are people managing to get beans I’m worried that the tine is too narrow and the beans won’t fall down the back of the leg deep enough View attachment 1065829

Yeah it’s a big design flaw. They won’t go any further but yeah the coulter angle characteristics are compromised. I moved a few back on mine but they instantly slip back again. I would hope they’ve moved away from the toblerone rubber sausages on the new ones??

 

[tr250]

Yeah it’s a big design flaw. They won’t go any further but yeah the coulter angle characteristics are compromised. I moved a few back on mine but they instantly slip back again. I would hope they’ve moved away from the toblerone rubber sausages on the new ones??

Yes they are a more solid triangle type of rubber block on the new ones I think

 

[Wombat]

New ones are round I think as I have just swapped my home built drill triangle ones onto round from weavings a week or so ago.

still rotated a bit as we struggled to get the rounds in without nipping them in the clamp

 

[tr250]

New ones are round I think as I have just swapped my home built drill triangle ones onto round from weavings a week or so ago.

still rotated a bit as we struggled to get the rounds in without nipping them in the clamp

I bought ours from Weaving themselves but thought the round rubber was the old way

 

[alomy75]

I bought ours from Weaving themselves but thought the round rubber was the old way

Nah the triangle (toblerone!) is the original way. I must have converted my freeflow to sabretine 5 or 6 years ago and they were current then.

 

[tr250]

It’s Wierd I’ve just looked at the leaflet available to download from Weaving’s website and there seems to be both ways on them. I would have thought the triangle type would hold them better

 

[Wombat]

When I built mine 2 years ago it was toblerones I got with the tines

 

[Wombat]

I actually like the rounds even though they are pain to get in the clamps and we still haven’t managed to stop the clamps gripping the top one a bit they seem to vibrate more which I hope might mean a bit less slotting

 

[yellow belly]

the angle of the tynes can be set by altering the tine bolts
this can be used to reduce trash built swept back
or if littlle trash swept mor forwards for reduced soil disturbance all explained in the instruction manual

 

[AT Aloss]

Which hole for the shear bolt in trashy conditions? Does it want to be the top hole so the leg is more vertical?

 

[matthewizod]

Which hole for the shear bolt in trashy conditions? Does it want to be the top hole so the leg is more vertical?View attachment 1068350

We run ours as in the most forward hole in trash, have also run infront of the bolt.

Ours was fine on that setting in chopped wheat straw, had to keep pressure off the harrows though

 

[Wombat]

I have tried it in both and didn’t seem to make any difference. I think more vertical was better as it rolled round the tine rather than wedge under it

I did have to lift my Harrow though as it was hitting that and making the balling up 3x as bad

 

[AT Aloss]

Seems to have brought everything with it yesterday, just a bit too wet I suspect, although it’s a light sandy field on the headlands, never what you’d call wet through (10 mm on Tuesday/Wednesday, dry windy day Thursday).

 

[Wombat]

Seems to have brought everything with it the yesterday, just a bit too wet I suspect, although it’s a light sandy field on the headlands, never what you’d call wet through (10 mm on Tuesday/Wednesday, dry windy day Thursday).

Very similar here, I had the same issues in some medium soil with long stubble but baled straw. Stubble just didn’t seem to be able to stand up this year.
I wonder if it was the dry and the straw hasn’t rotted in the really heavy fields where I had straw issues and the stubble roots have gone where it was stubble only in the medium fields
dad ran the discs round two headlands after drilling

 

[AT Aloss]

Very similar here, I had the same issues in some medium soil with long stubble but baled straw. Stubble just didn’t seem to be able to stand up this year.
I wonder if it was the dry and the straw hasn’t rotted in the really heavy fields where I had straw issues and the stubble roots have gone where it was stubble only in the medium fields
dad ran the discs round two headlands after drilling

I think you've hit the nail on the head about straw in stubbles this year

 

[copse]

Seems to have brought everything with it yesterday, just a bit too wet I suspect, although it’s a light sandy field on the headlands, never what you’d call wet through (10 mm on Tuesday/Wednesday, dry windy day Thursday).

What a bloody mess!

 

[AT Aloss]

What a bloody mess!

It's never normally bothered me what it looks like behind the drill as it's always been reliable at putting seed in the right place & it's produced good crops, but when the straw doesn't flow through it, it's a problem.

 

[alomy75]

Seems to have brought everything with it yesterday, just a bit too wet I suspect, although it’s a light sandy field on the headlands, never what you’d call wet through (10 mm on Tuesday/Wednesday, dry windy day Thursday).

Take every other tine out; photo is second wheat; not baled, straw raked only. 250mm spacing metcalfe

 

[AT Aloss]

It's never normally bothered me what it looks like behind the drill as it's always been reliable at putting seed in the right place & it's produced good crops, but when the straw doesn't flow through it, it's a problem.

To be fair to what barley went in on Friday before we got rained off is all in the right zone, sprouted & motoring now. It does look a bit rough on top but I there'll be no straw left on top by next harvest. Back in it today, level the heaps up & have another go...

 

[AT Aloss]

Take every other tine out; photo is second wheat; not baled, straw raked only. 250mm spacing metcalfeView attachment 1068992

We're at 160mm & can see the benefit of 250mm this year - looks to be going well