Welger vs McHale

[Fragonard]

Simple question.
Which makes the heavier/denser/better bale of silage?
Thanks.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Depends on driver

 

[Chae1]

@KB6930

 

[balerman]

Very little in it,but the mechanical tailgate lock on the the Welger edges it,if everything else being equal.

 

[Chae1]

Fixed or variable chamber?

 

[daveydiesel1]

The welger will do best bales. Dont understand how mchale have managed to get ppl to think unless u buy a mchale baler ur an idiot. Theyv plenty o flaws just like most machines

 

[Chae1]

The welger will do best bales. Dont understand how mchale have managed to get ppl to think unless u buy a mchale baler ur an idiot. Theyv plenty o flaws just like most machines

McHale belted baler is/was far superior to Welger. I had 3 welger rbelt balers before my McHale. Put 90k bales total through welgers. The v660 that replaced last 1 is a far superior machine. That was 2011 I bought McHale and still got it at 45k bales. I used to feel welgers were costing me money at around 30k bales and punted them.

Both McHale and welger will have changed a lot in 9 years so my experience is historic!

I was doing a fair bit of Contracting before I bought McHale and baling a lot of wet $hite for customers.

The McHale was like somebody had spoken to me about all worst points of a welger and sorted them on McHale.

The McHale was basically a copy after all.

 

[Chae1]

The welger will do best bales. Dont understand how mchale have managed to get ppl to think unless u buy a mchale baler ur an idiot. Theyv plenty o flaws just like most machines

Do you do much baling?

 

[Boohoo]

Can only comment on fixed chamber, combi balers. The Fusion 3 I drive won the heaviest bale competition at a grassland demonstration and having seen the bales out of it in the same stack as Lely Tornado bales it was clear to see that the Fusion makes a bigger bale. That Lely has now been replaced by an MF and I've heard a few comments about small bales but haven't seen then alongside Fusion bales yet.

 

[Fragonard]

Fixed or variable chamber?

Fixed

 

[Fragonard]

Can only comment on fixed chamber, combi balers. The Fusion 3 I drive won the heaviest bale competition at a grassland demonstration and having seen the bales out of it in the same stack as Lely Tornado bales it was clear to see that the Fusion makes a bigger bale. That Lely has now been replaced by an MF and I've heard a few comments about small bales but haven't seen then alongside Fusion bales yet.

The fusion makes a bigger bale because the door opens under pressure?

 

[Boohoo]

The fusion makes a bigger bale because the door opens under pressure?

No, the Fusion has a wider bale chamber. The bales were stacked on end and you could see the steps in the stack where the Tornado bales ended and the Fusion bales started.

 

[daveydiesel1]

Best bales we ever had was from a welger and a vicon/kuhn would be next

 

[KB6930]

Fixed

Nothing in it but the welger has catches to keep the door shut so in theory I'd say it should make a denser bale but will be very very little in it .

 

[KB6930]

@KB6930

I'm trying to keep quiet on this subject

Fixed chamber is a different area to my problems tho

 

[wdah/him]

have mchale 5500 here, biggest problem is the dead spot in the real, as does the welgar if it is a copy.

biggest difference to how big a bale is driver and swath set up. not sure if i would buy another mchale, think i should have bought a krone but i do like the kuhn pick up.

however between welger and mchale, i couldnt care, mchale was offered for trail here and did what i wanted so was bought

 

[balerman]

No, the Fusion has a wider bale chamber. The bales were stacked on end and you could see the steps in the stack where the Tornado bales ended and the Fusion bales started.

No it doesn't,look at the spec,same size chamber both 1.25 x 1.23.The back door will open more on a McHale so the bale may be bigger and may be heavier,but it wont be a better shape.

 

[Boohoo]

No it doesn't,look at the spec,same size chamber both 1.25 x 1.23.The back door will open more on a McHale so the bale may be bigger and may be heavier,but it wont be a better shape.

The back door opening won't make any difference to the width, or the height of the bale if stood on end. Whatever the spec sheet says there's around 2 inches of a difference.

 

[icanshootwell]

Been using a mchale since 2013, no breakdowns but maintained very well, they are a strong baler. For me to go to another brand would be down to dealer krone or kuhn is the only choice, 2nd hand though, you have no trouble moving a mchale on, harder to shift a kuhn on 8 years down the road.

 

[balerman]

The back door opening won't make any difference to the width, or the height of the bale if stood on end. Whatever the spec sheet says there's around 2 inches of a difference.

Can only be differences in density settings if the chambers are the same size.